From The Perspective of a Liberal

[stmatthew]

I thought this would be interesting to see how those that are liberal see the Apostolic movement in 2008. Please allow some liberal folks to answer before discussing what they say.




Where do you see the Apostolic movement (UPCI, ALJC, AMF, and the likes.) at this point?

What do you see as problems within it?

What are the strengths of todays movement?

Where do you think we are headed as a movement?

What is your advise to the generation that is to follow us.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I thought this would be interesting to see how those that are liberal see the Apostolic movement in 2008. Please allow some liberal folks to answer before discussing what they say.




Where do you see the Apostolic movement (UPCI, ALJC, AMF, and the likes.) at this point?

I see it at a transition to becoming more in tune with the modern American technology and culture.

What do you see as problems within it?

The movement as a whole is considered Ultra-con and even cultic by outsiders. The Oneness message is sometimes lost in their conservative outward holiness culture. The "different" look (for women) can turn some away from hearing the saving message of Jesus Christ.

What are the strengths of todays movement?

Annointed preaching and singing.

Where do you think we are headed as a movement?

Modernization.

What is your advise to the generation that is to follow us.

Keep the faith, and roll with it! Keep the main thing the main thing. Fight to preserve Apostolic truth, not to preserve a 1900s culture.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I see it at a transition to becoming more in tune with the modern American technology and culture.




The movement as a whole is considered Ultra-con and even cultic by outsiders. The Oneness message is sometimes lost in their conservative outward holiness culture. The "different" look (for women) can turn some away from hearing the saving message of Jesus Christ.



Annointed preaching and singing.



Modernization.



Keep the faith, and roll with it! Keep the main thing the main thing. Fight to preserve Apostolic truth, not to preserve a 1900s culture.

Ditto.

(Thanks Pianoperson for keeping me from having to type all that)

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by CC1

Ditto.

(Thanks Pianoperson for keeping me from having to type all that)

PianoPERSON???

Are you saying that there may be some DOUBT?
























hahaha...j/k PM. The devil made me say it...for sure. You know how that goes.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

PianoPERSON???

Are you saying that there may be some DOUBT?

hahaha...j/k PM. The devil made me say it...for sure. You know how that goes.

CC1's just jealous because he can't hang with me at golf!

[Pressing-On]

Where do you think we are headed as a movement?

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Annointed preaching and singing.

Originally Posted by pelathais

Heartfelt worship and an innocence that borders on naviete.

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

What are the strengths of todays movement? That men are stepping up in their local churches and doing the will of God. Not just subscribing to the pages of a manual....

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

3. The main strength is the openess to move in the spirit.

Amen!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

CC1's just jealous because he can't hang with me at golf!

Or playing the piano....
Or playing the organ....
Or playing the bass....

However I can hang with you when it comes to eating!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I thought this would be interesting to see how those that are liberal see the Apostolic movement in 2008. Please allow some liberal folks to answer before discussing what they say.

I don't consider myself "liberal" by any means except when it comes to economic issues, I'm a Classical Liberal like Adam Smith. But this is where they lump me, so...

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Where do you see the Apostolic movement (UPCI, ALJC, AMF, and the likes.) at this point?

The movement as a whole is absolutely clueless when it comes to evangelism and church growth. There are a few bright spots that give you some hope, but the rest is dross.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

What do you see as problems within it?

A lack of education, too much rural superstition and delusional paranoia even about our own brethren.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

What are the strengths of todays movement?

Heartfelt worship and an innocence that borders on naviete.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Where do you think we are headed as a movement?

Our evangelism doesn't even keep up with the overall population growth so we will always be a marginalized and poorly understood side bar to the bigger story of what God is doing in the lives of the people on this planet.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

What is your advise to the generation that is to follow us.

Stay in school.

*sigh*

[Neck]

[QUOTE=stmatthew;365600]I thought this would be interesting to see how those that are liberal see the Apostolic movement in 2008. Please allow some liberal folks to answer before discussing what they say.




Where do you see the Apostolic movement (UPCI, ALJC, AMF, and the likes.) at this point? Too much Sectarianism.
What do you see as problems within it? Groups all calling themselves the movement today. Kind of like 10 companies all using some 3rd party report to say they are number 1.
What are the strengths of todays movement? That men are stepping up in their local churches and doing the will of God. Not just subscribing to the pages of a manual....


Where do you think we are headed as a movement? The Lord is going to have an outpouring where we least expect it.

What is your advise to the generation that is to follow us. Write down the things of God in your generation. The generations before us and ours have done a dis-service by not writing more about the move of God in their lifetimes....