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02-29-2008, 02:17 PM
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Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
I just received my Ministry Today mag and read an article by George Bana stating that according to his research, 1/3 of the population of the US is Pentecostal/Charismatic. That is 80 million adults and depending how it is defined, the figures come to 30-37%. Barna states that these people are more likely to LIVE out their faith, believe the Bible, be evangelistic and state that their lives have been drastically transformed.
That being the case, is the outpouring of the HG that has so long been "prophesied" in Oneness circles actually taking place?
Oh, wait....it can't be, because these people outside the Oneness movement don't get the REAL HG! How silly of me to even suggest such a thing.
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02-29-2008, 02:21 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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I just received my Ministry Today mag and read an article by George Bana stating that according to his research, 1/3 of the population of the US is Pentecostal/Charismatic. That is 80 million adults and depending how it is defined, the figures come to 30-37%. Barna states that these people are more likely to LIVE out their faith, believe the Bible, be evangelistic and state that their lives have been drastically transformed.
That being the case, is the outpouring of the HG that has so long been "prophesied" in Oneness circles actually taking place?
Oh, wait....it can't be, because these people outside the Oneness movement don't get the REAL HG! How silly of me to even suggest such a thing. 
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02-29-2008, 02:28 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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I just received my Ministry Today mag and read an article by George Bana stating that according to his research, 1/3 of the population of the US is Pentecostal/Charismatic. That is 80 million adults and depending how it is defined, the figures come to 30-37%. Barna states that these people are more likely to LIVE out their faith, believe the Bible, be evangelistic and state that their lives have been drastically transformed.
That being the case, is the outpouring of the HG that has so long been "prophesied" in Oneness circles actually taking place?
Oh, wait....it can't be, because these people outside the Oneness movement don't get the REAL HG! How silly of me to even suggest such a thing. 
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We need to recapture the call to go and make disciples not gather crowds or have people have have mass experiences.
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02-29-2008, 02:32 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
One hundred and twenty changed the known world these millions have changed little or nothing.
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02-29-2008, 02:40 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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One hundred and twenty changed the known world these millions have changed little or nothing.
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I would tend to argue that one changed the known world...and 120 initially followed.
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02-29-2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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One hundred and twenty changed the known world these millions have changed little or nothing.
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Maybe not....but it has certainly changed THEM!
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02-29-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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Profession and Confession are far different from possession. Great that so many claim a experience, to bad the number of disciples have fallen greatly.
We need to recapture the call to go and make disciples not gather crowds or have people have have mass experiences.
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Now THAT will preach!!!! Well said!!
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This is a beautiful story of God's Grace and Mercy toward all of us. We need great Grace because we are so judgmental at times. When God said he will pour out his spirit on all flesh I believe He meant ALL! If Roman Catholic and the like are not incompassed into the 'ALL' then I do not know who is. I looked up that word 'All' in the greek for that verse you know what it means? It means "ALL." Funny that 'All' means 'ALL'! My point is that we tend to over look that or see it as 'All the walk through our doors' or 'All in our organization.' I am ashamed of how I used to be. Like you, Jim, I looked down my nose at them and thought they had a fake HG or something. But then I took time to watch and learn and the 'fake' they had made them happy and holy. I thought there is something wrong and God spoke and told me I was the wrong one. I had to change my outlook cause of God's conviction!
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02-29-2008, 05:43 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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Now THAT will preach!!!! Well said!!
I was blind, but now I see... (that's my story too) 
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MOW, I think that is the same song and dance that alot on here have experienced. As you know it is an eye-opening thing. Not only is it challenging, but it makes you feel so small and horrible to see the errors of your way so to speak.
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03-01-2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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One hundred and twenty changed the known world these millions have changed little or nothing.
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I guess to be fair, it took the 120 almost 300 years before you could say that they had "changed the known world."
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03-01-2008, 09:13 PM
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Re: Barna states that 1/3 of US is Pent./Charis.
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I guess to be fair, it took the 120 almost 300 years before you could say that they had "changed the known world."
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Not exactly.
Within less than a generation after Pentecost, in Acts 17:6, we see the unbelievers in Thessalonica speaking about the believers in Christ saying: "These that have turned the world upside down have come here also".
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