Saints on Drugs

[NotforSale]

I'm amazed how so many in the Christian world have accepted the diagonostic fraud proposed and used by Psychiatry. We must educate ourselves concerning this wretched approach to help people who are not "feeling" quite right.

I have studied brain development from a medical and pshycological perspective, spent untold hours conseling people, and have served God for the last 28 years. Never have I seen such a reproach of deceit in the Church, using drugs to bring a person back to normality.

One of the Churches we recently attended was staggered by this lie. My wife was told, almost every adult female in the Church was on anti-depressent medication. My heart was grieved to find out that scores of our young children and young adults are on medications designed to "Balance" thier brain deficiancy.

I don't quite understand why so many have given in to these medical scams. Research supports, without question, the danger and the dark reasons why America is being "Drugged". Pharmicutical companies and paid off doctors have dupped God fearing people into believing they need these chemicals to survive and be normal. If we don't rise up and reclaim God's Word as the Book of True Medicine for the mind, we will send our future generation into the slums of drug addiction.

When I was saved, I was a drug addict. My mind was altered, and conceiving spiritual things in this illusional state was almost impossible. God's Word gave me comfort, letting me know a sober mind was a godly mind. His voice would ring clear and His counsel would lead me in the paths of righteousness. He could touch my mind, my heart, and my soul with a peace that passes all understanding, despite the fact I grew up in an alcholic home, filled with abuse. My job was to rid my body of chemical, and then fill my mind with His Word. It worked! And, it still works!

I don't want to get to long with this opening statement. I'll do my best to give more reason and rhyme in further responses to why we need to kiss the pharmy's goodbye, or else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30iwhEw9ho

I hope this video has helped to stir dialog and further research. This is just the beginning of facts that can be found online concerning this subject.

Satan stands by, wanting to keep us at bay with inflicted thoughts and a craving for pills.

The Lord can set us free if we'll claim it. Lets run into His tower where we will be safe. He will restore our souls! Nothing is too hard for Him. All things are possible!

We need to run into this Valley and kill Golieth!

NFS

[ILG]

I somewhat agree with what you are saying. You say you have studied these things for a long time, I assume on your own? And yet, we can learn some things from psychiatry and counselors even if we don't agree that drugs are the right answer. Maybe they are sometimes though.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by ILG

I somewhat agree with what you are saying. You say you have studied these things for a long time, I assume on your own? And yet, we can learn some things from psychiatry and counselors even if we don't agree that drugs are the right answer. Maybe they are sometimes though.

My studies and analysis comes from a broad range of research, including writing a book. I have also read several books, religious and non-religious dealing with this issue. I have worked in the public school system dealing with all ages of children, raising three of my own children (all different, mentally, emotionally, energetically). I am also a fully Ordained Minister, pastoring for the last 13 years.

I have also been to the school of "Hard Knocks" and have a degree in "Kneeology".

I work in an office where 2 certified, licensed counselors (1 with 15 years of college) maintain thier practices. The one with the most experience has sat in my office, asking for advice because of my experience as a pastor and personal zeal to help people.

She has personally told me about the pressure she faces from pharmicutical companies to "Push" drugs that are highly addictive. The reward for "Pushing"; All expense paid for trips, large cash bonuses, free drugs, ect.

When money becomes the ploy, corruption will find it's way in to the moral fibers of this profession, regardless of oath, verbal committment to do what's right, or the desire to not hurt people. Money, this issue is all about money. Money is powerful and evolves people into the realm of being sinister.

If you've ever been an addict, you understand what I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bzwx5HcurM

[IsolatedSaint]

Originally Posted by ILG

Maybe they are sometimes though.

Mind altering drugs are never the answer....especially for those that call themselves children of God.

[Blubayou]

I do think that doctors push drugs especially depression drugs on people, without trying to get to root of the problem first. I know this has happened to me and to my husband. I think there are a couple of reasons for this- we live in an instant world where we want an instant fix for the problem and getting to the root of the issue would take lots of time with the doctor and many do not want to invest that kind of time. I do think there are occasions where anti depression drugs can be very helpful to get someone over the "hump" and help them work through a problem. In this case - they would be used in conjunction with talk therapy with a counselor, or if a person is willing- reading and soul searching on their own. I do think that there is a physical depletion of natural enzymes(sp) that control moods and depression. In that case - just like with insulin- someone would need to take anti depression drugs unless God would heal them. JMO Hope this makes sense.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Blubayou

I do think that doctors push drugs especially depression drugs on people, without trying to get to root of the problem first. I know this has happened to me and to my husband. I think there are a couple of reasons for this- we live in an instant world where we want an instant fix for the problem and getting to the root of the issue would take lots of time with the doctor and many do not want to invest that kind of time. I do think there are occasions where anti depression drugs can be very helpful to get someone over the "hump" and help them work through a problem. In this case - they would be used in conjunction with talk therapy with a counselor, or if a person is willing- reading and soul searching on their own. I do think that there is a physical depletion of natural enzymes(sp) that control moods and depression. In that case - just like with insulin- someone would need to take anti depression drugs unless God would heal them. JMO Hope this makes sense.

I appreciate your positive input, however. Research is proving beyond the shadow of a doubt, drugs are not the answer, period. Learning to lean on God is! Faith in Him is our Hope and assurance that all will be OK.

Trust in the Lord with ALL thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. Falling into the Lord's arms will be forever our answer, and, is His perfect will for us. He will take us over the hump.

Like the video that I first posted, no test can be done to confirm ADD, ADHD, Depression, and all of the other disorders proclaimed by the psyhciactric industry. You cannot cure something that doesn't exist by giving "It" medication that leads to the horror of losing your mind.

Our problem as people is this; we don't like to suffer or feel pain, so we seek for relief in the wrong places with the wrong antidote because the "FIX" is quick. Understanding this will help us. We must know, suffering is real, part of life, and truly makes us into who we are.

We were meant to cry, feel pain, sorrow, anxiety, joy, and we must not hinder these by mind altering devices born of Satan. When we endure these, we change, grow, and become made into His image through time.

Saints aren't going to the Garden, to weep, sweat, and agonize thier grief, they are opening thier hearts to "Proffesionals" who have been given 30 pieces of silver.

God Bless, NFS

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I appreciate your positive input, however. Research is proving beyond the shadow of a doubt, drugs are not the answer, period. Learning to lean on God is! Faith in Him is our Hope and assurance that all will be OK.

Trust in the Lord with ALL thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. Falling into the Lord's arms will be forever our answer, and, is His perfect will for us. He will take us over the hump.

Like the video that I first posted, no test can be done to confirm ADD, ADHD, Depression, and all of the other disorders proclaimed by the psyhciactric industry. You cannot cure something that doesn't exist by giving "It" medication that leads to the horror of losing your mind.

Our problem as people is this; we don't like to suffer or feel pain, so we seek for relief in the wrong places with the wrong antidote because the "FIX" is quick. Understanding this will help us. We must know, suffering is real, part of life, and truly makes us into who we are.

We were meant to cry, feel pain, sorrow, anxiety, joy, and we must not hinder these by mind altering devices born of Satan. When we endure these, we change, grow, and become made into His image through time.

Saints aren't going to the Garden, to weep, sweat, and agonize thier grief, they are opening thier hearts to "Proffesionals" who have been given 30 pieces of silver.

God Bless, NFS

Have you ever thought about how possibly TV and whatever you watch can cause issues in your health from a mental aspect. I very much believe such constant stimulation from a negative standpoint gets the body to release chemicals on a dialy basis it would not naturally. Thus our body becomes out of whack causing health issues over the long haul not including spiritual issues.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Have you ever thought about how possibly TV and whatever you watch can cause issues in your health from a mental aspect. I very much believe such constant stimulation from a negative standpoint gets the body to release chemicals on a dialy basis it would not naturally. Thus our body becomes out of whack causing health issues over the long haul not including spiritual issues.

Good science has proven, TV has contributed greatly to the moral demise of our World. The mind is a place that stores and processes information. The mind is also stimulated through the eye gate. Constant bombardment of foul and debased entertainment can weaken our resolve to avoid evil. Studies and science have shown through decades of research all this to be true. The Bible as well, backs this philosophy.

Also, Jesus said the eyes are the light of the body. Garbage in, garbage out. We must be careful what we allow into the heart, as the heart is where we ultimately make the final choice about life and its many problems.

What's even worse is this; Video games. Video games have been shown to release dopamine (naturally produced moriphine-like stimulate) in the brain, causing euphoric and addictive qualities. They have done tests' on children in the hospital who were suffering and in pain. They allowed them to play video games and found the need for pain medication was reduced, and even eliminated. This is stunning with power.

Another interesting find is this: The counselers who work in my office have told me, every case of pornography addiction they have dealt with includes video game addiction. Not one case was void of video games. This shows, fantasy, which stimulates almost a medicinal affect, breeds and grows with violent ferver.

This has caused many to throw caution to the wind, losing family, jobs, and most important, reality. When we lose touch with reality, the consequences are unfathomable.

Lord Bless, NFS

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Good science has proven, TV has contributed greatly to the moral demise of our World. The mind is a place that stores and processes information. The mind is also stimulated through the eye gate. Constant bombardment of foul and debased entertainment can weaken our resolve to avoid evil. Studies and science have shown through decades of research all this to be true. The Bible as well, backs this philosophy.

Also, Jesus said the eyes are the light of the body. Garbage in, garbage out. We must be careful what we allow into the heart, as the heart is where we ultimately make the final choice about life and its many problems.

What's even worse is this; Video games. Video games have been shown to release dopamine (naturally produced moriphine-like stimulate) in the brain, causing euphoric and addictive qualities. They have done tests' on children in the hospital who were suffering and in pain. They allowed them to play video games and found the need for pain medication was reduced, and even eliminated. This is stunning with power.

Another interesting find is this: The counselers who work in my office have told me, every case of pornography addiction they have dealt with includes video game addiction. Not one case was void of video games. This shows, fantasy, which stimulates almost a medicinal affect, breeds and grows with violent ferver.

This has caused many to throw caution to the wind, losing family, jobs, and most important, reality. When we lose touch with reality, the consequences are unfathomable.

Lord Bless, NFS

So should we get rid of video games in our homes?

[Tina]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I'm amazed how so many in the Christian world have accepted the diagonostic fraud proposed and used by Psychiatry. We must educate ourselves concerning this wretched approach to help people who are not "feeling" quite right.

I have studied brain development from a medical and pshycological perspective, spent untold hours conseling people, and have served God for the last 28 years. Never have I seen such a reproach of deceit in the Church, using drugs to bring a person back to normality.

One of the Churches we recently attended was staggered by this lie. My wife was told, almost every adult female in the Church was on anti-depressent medication. My heart was grieved to find out that scores of our young children and young adults are on medications designed to "Balance" thier brain deficiancy.

I don't quite understand why so many have given in to these medical scams. Research supports, without question, the danger and the dark reasons why America is being "Drugged". Pharmicutical companies and paid off doctors have dupped God fearing people into believing they need these chemicals to survive and be normal. If we don't rise up and reclaim God's Word as the Book of True Medicine for the mind, we will send our future generation into the slums of drug addiction.

When I was saved, I was a drug addict. My mind was altered, and conceiving spiritual things in this illusional state was almost impossible. God's Word gave me comfort, letting me know a sober mind was a godly mind. His voice would ring clear and His counsel would lead me in the paths of righteousness. He could touch my mind, my heart, and my soul with a peace that passes all understanding, despite the fact I grew up in an alcholic home, filled with abuse. My job was to rid my body of chemical, and then fill my mind with His Word. It worked! And, it still works!

I don't want to get to long with this opening statement. I'll do my best to give more reason and rhyme in further responses to why we need to kiss the pharmy's goodbye, or else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30iwhEw9ho

I hope this video has helped to stir dialog and further research. This is just the beginning of facts that can be found online concerning this subject.

Satan stands by, wanting to keep us at bay with inflicted thoughts and a craving for pills.

The Lord can set us free if we'll claim it. Lets run into His tower where we will be safe. He will restore our souls! Nothing is too hard for Him. All things are possible!

We need to run into this Valley and kill Golieth!

NFS

Some people would be surprised to find many "problems" they have that throw them out of balance can be fixed by a monthly Vitamin B injection.