Banned from AMF, AGAIN!

[Jason B]

Appearently I will have to debate whether tithing is for the new testament church here on AFF. Because when you ask some ministers about it, instead of scripture they shut you down.

Most of you guys read here anyway, so maybe the conversation could continue? You can use your AFF screen names, you identities are safe.

we can start with this:

The entire idea of tithing is based on a false premise, because tithes were never money in the Bible.

Unless some of you are too busy condeming everyone in creation to hell fire, and I know some of you are.

[Ohio Pastor]

Bro Badejo I will go on record right now to say that you sir are a liar.

You have not at this time of 12:26 EST have been banned.

After this stunt .... it could happen.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

Bro Badejo I will go on record right now to say that you sir are a liar.

You have not at this time of 12:26 EST have been banned.

After this stunt .... it could happen.

Then why is my account locked? Brother, if your not going to discuss the Bible, if all your interested in is pom poms and amens, I'm not going to be a good fit for your site.

Either we can talk Bible in private or public, but I plan on talking Bible somewhere.

[Ohio Pastor]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Then why is my account locked? Brother, if your not going to discuss the Bible, if all your interested in is pom poms and amens, I'm not going to be a good fit for your site.

Either we can talk Bible in private or public, but I plan on talking Bible somewhere.

That is what was asked of you by the ownership but from what I saw you never could nor would.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

That is what was asked of you by the ownership but from what I saw you never could nor would.

Brother, I think you are good men on that forum, but I'm dissapointed that unless your willing to go with the flow, your not welcome.

As I mentioned, AFF has a debate room, in which only two specific posters can post, it is locked to all others except Praxeas.
You say I don't have scripture for what I believe and preach. Would you be willing to partake in a logical, scriptural, and moderated debate on the topic, and that on a public forum?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

That is what was asked of you by the ownership but from what I saw you never could nor would.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

As I mentioned, AFF has a debate room, in which only two specific posters can post, it is locked to all others except Praxeas.

You say I don't have scripture for what I believe and preach. Would you be willing to partake in a logical, scriptural, and moderated debate on the topic, and that on a public forum?

Ohio, you didn't answer the question. If your not interested, perhaps another gentleman from AMF is interested.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

Bro Badejo I will go on record right now to say that you sir are a liar.

You have not at this time of 12:26 EST have been banned.

After this stunt .... it could happen .

Brother, you PM'd me, I tried to respond, I was locked out of the forum. I pulled the page up, and I was locked out still. You had just mentioned in the thread concerning banning that patience was a virtue, but yours was running out. You then PM'd me saying you were going to ban me if I didn't respond, or something to that effect. (That is when I tried to respond only to find I was locked out).

I thought because I was locked out, I was banned, especially since it had been mentioned twice tonight.

You then call me a liar, send me an email, I sign on to AMF, and have 3 PM's from you. I try to respond AGAIN, and this time get the no doubt about it, permanent ban screen.

Brother, I mistaked being locked out with being banned. It is quite logical how I could make the connection following your comments. So I was mistaken, where as you came on a public forum, being a Pastor and made a false accusation.

Furthermore, you post that I did not support my view with scripture, I ask you to debate me on a forum people can read, and get the permanent ban.

This shows you really got some Bible for what you believe.

[TroubleMaker]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Brother, you PM'd me, I tried to respond, I was locked out of the forum. I pulled the page up, and I was locked out still. You had just mentioned in the thread concerning banning that patience was a virtue, but yours was running out. You then PM'd me saying you were going to ban me if I didn't respond, or something to that effect. (That is when I tried to respond only to find I was locked out).

I thought because I was locked out, I was banned, especially since it had been mentioned twice tonight.

You then call me a liar, send me an email, I sign on to AMF, and have 3 PM's from you. I try to respond AGAIN, and this time get the no doubt about it, permanent ban screen.

Brother, I mistaked being locked out with being banned. It is quite logical how I could make the connection following your comments. So I was mistaken, where as you came on a public forum, being a Pastor and made a false accusation.

Furthermore, you post that I did not support my view with scripture, I ask you to debate me on a forum people can read, and get the permanent ban.

This shows you really got some Bible for what you believe.

Jason, just don't go on that forum. This is the "ministers only" forum, correct? That statement alone makes it a site you should never belong to. "Ministers only"?? As if they're better? As if they should be separate from everyone else? There has long been differentiated levels of Christians that start at the bottom with the poor guy that cleans the toilets all the way up to the top, to the guy that has a card in his pocket that makes him feel better than everyone. As soon as there is a forum for church nursery workers, or one for janitors, or faithful financial supporters (without which the AMF dudes would have to go get a job selling cars or insurance), or parking lot attendants, or one for ushers & greeters....then a forum like AMF will be worthwhile. Until then, a minister's forum is just a club of like-minded cronies patting themselves on the back. As a pastor, I wouldn't dare belong to a forum like that.

Take your experience with "Ohio Pastor", who, from what I'm reading here has no ability to be honest or truthful, as a lesson and just move on.

[Ohio Pastor]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Brother, you PM'd me, I tried to respond, I was locked out of the forum. I pulled the page up, and I was locked out still. You had just mentioned in the thread concerning banning that patience was a virtue, but yours was running out. You then PM'd me saying you were going to ban me if I didn't respond, or something to that effect. (That is when I tried to respond only to find I was locked out).

I NEVER locked you out.... Nope didnt do it. Someone on the forum asked why you were still there arguing .... I stated because I am a very patient man but my patience was running out. This after I asked you to calm down for now in a PM.

I thought because I was locked out, I was banned, especially since it had been mentioned twice tonight.

You hadnt been locked out. I dont know where you got that from.

You then call me a liar, send me an email, I sign on to AMF, and have 3 PM's from you. I try to respond AGAIN, and this time get the no doubt about it, permanent ban screen.

This time you were banned... you werent banned till 12:48AM EST. You started this thread on an assumption. You assumed (and I can understand) that you were banned so the very first thing you do is run over to AFF and drag us through the mud becasue of an assumption. And then wonder why I reacted the way I did after you had already done this once before.

Brother, I mistaked being locked out with being banned. It is quite logical how I could make the connection following your comments. So I was mistaken, where as you came on a public forum, being a Pastor and made a false accusation.

Whether I am a Pastor or not is irrelavant. When we get to heaven I wont be a Pastor anymore. But sir you need to grow up. When things dont go your way you run to AFF and cry and complain. I asked you to calm down... warned you too... yet you made the DECISION to keep it up.

Furthermore, you post that I did not support my view with scripture, I ask you to debate me on a forum people can read, and get the permanent ban.

This shows you really got some Bible for what you believe.

Once again I wont debate was is written.

Also, for the one who made the assumption that I was the only one who banned Jason, it wasnt just me. Other ADMIN came to the plate and said he needed to go.

As Keith has stated already, Jason came in looking to pick a fight not debate.

I will say sorry to ADMIN for breaking your rules.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

Bro Badejo I will go on record right now to say that you sir are a liar.

Brother I forgive your false judmgent. I seriously did think I was banned, who wouldn't? I don't think you meant to make such a quick accusation, hopefully in the future you will a little more slow to speak on that wise.

I have no doubt that you are an honest man, and I don't doubt your integrity. I simply doubt that you are really interested in debating anything that doesn't line up with your doctrine. But, Ohio, that's okay, alot of pentecostals are like that, it doesn't make you a bad man, or unsaved.

I understand you've put your life blood into it, and don't want to be wrong. And for the record, I think tithing is a non essential sdoctrine, I believe you can teach tithes, and go to heaven, you will just be mistaken on that point.

As for AMF, I didn't bring my pom poms to the party, and I left my amen'ing megaphone at home, so I think I will be much more comfortable over here on AFF anyhow, but still welcome any rebuttals to my posistions.