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Old 04-15-2010, 02:01 PM
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Worse Than Tiger Woods

Ben Roethlisberger ... scumbag.

Has twice now been accused of sexual assault against women. He's lucky to be free not facing charges for either alleged assault.

The details from the latest one is sickening...

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In 572 pages of documents released Wednesday, Nicole Biancofiore told investigators from the Georgia Bureau of Investigations that her friend, a student at Georgia College & State University, "was dragged by a bodyguard to the back room in Capital [City, a local nightclub]. She was extremely intoxicated and not aware of what was happening."

"He had sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told my friends they couldn't pass them to get to me," the accuser wrote in her statement, which was reported in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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In the Milledgeville incident, Roethlisberger was out drinking with friends to celebrate his 28th birthday and bumped into the student and her sorority sisters throughout the night. They linked up at Capital City, where he invited them to a VIP section and bought them a round of shots.

Later, the accuser said Roethlisberger had sex with her in a bathroom adjacent to the VIP room.

Another friend of the accuser, Aliesha Scholten, told investigators that she tried to open the locked door, but "she was taken away by a bodyguard of Ben's."

A third friend, Ann Marie Lubatti, told police, that she "approached the other security guard and told him that she [the accuser] was in no shape to be back there with Ben Roethlisberger. He couldn't look me in the eye, and told me he didn't know what was going on. My friend went to open the door, and it was locked."
Now I don't want to assume or imply anything, namely that NFL Commish Goodell isn't handling this the same as other accusations against black players ... but thus far Roethlisberger has been untouched, even though he barely slipped out of being charged with the latest accusation. And he's still facing a lawsuit with the first accusation.

I hope the dirtbag gets suspended several games, if not by Goodell and the NFL, at least by the Steelers organization. I have several friends who are Steelers fans and they're sick of his off-the-field troubles.

Goodell better use the iron fist with this as he has with other players, otherwise it will do more than just appear that he deals penalties by race.

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Old 04-15-2010, 03:24 PM
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There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.
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There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.
......IF he did it. We don't know that yet.
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:22 AM
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......IF he did it. We don't know that yet.
oh we know he was having sex in the night club bathroom. and we know he has dont this more than once. There is no question about that.


However, we dont know if it was rape and from all indications it was not.

Just because big Ben isnt a rapist, doesnt mean he isnt a dirtbag.

At least he isnt a dirtbag cheating on his wife.
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oh we know he was having sex in the night club bathroom. and we know he has dont this more than once. There is no question about that.


However, we dont know if it was rape and from all indications it was not.

Just because big Ben isnt a rapist, doesnt mean he isnt a dirtbag.

At least he isnt a dirtbag cheating on his wife.

No, actually we don't know if he was having sex. Ben R says they didn't. And no, we don't know that he's done this before. The Reno situation never made it to the point of charges being filed and it's now a civil matter.

Is it possible that Rothlisberger fooled around with a woman in Reno and was taken advantage because of his wealth and celebrity? I think we, at least, have to consider the possibility. And because of this incident, did an opportunistic young lady in Georgia, where Ben is well known, grabbed the opportunity to capitalize on the Reno incident? I think it's absolutely possible. Just remember the Duke LaCrosse team incident. This girl in Georgia dropped out of school the next day. Hmmm....maybe because she knew a financial windfall would be coming?

So far, we don't know ANYTHING for sure in all this and it's wise to let it all play out, although we'll probably never know the truth.

All that being said, if Ben, or anyone else, did exactly what he is accused of....forcing a drunk girl to have sex with him in a restroom....he should spend the rest of his life in prison.
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No, actually we don't know if he was having sex. Ben R says they didn't. And no, we don't know that he's done this before. The Reno situation never made it to the point of charges being filed and it's now a civil matter.

Is it possible that Rothlisberger fooled around with a woman in Reno and was taken advantage because of his wealth and celebrity? I think we, at least, have to consider the possibility. And because of this incident, did an opportunistic young lady in Georgia, where Ben is well known, grabbed the opportunity to capitalize on the Reno incident? I think it's absolutely possible. Just remember the Duke LaCrosse team incident. This girl in Georgia dropped out of school the next day. Hmmm....maybe because she knew a financial windfall would be coming?

So far, we don't know ANYTHING for sure in all this and it's wise to let it all play out, although we'll probably never know the truth.

All that being said, if Ben, or anyone else, did exactly what he is accused of....forcing a drunk girl to have sex with him in a restroom....he should spend the rest of his life in prison.
NOW, I suspect the Reno thing was all about some girl trying to cash out. I dont think Ben did anything illegal there.

I suspect the same thing happned this second time.

however both of these require that Ben be doing something that people with some morality dont do. period.

Shame on Ben for being stupid.
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If the girl was as drunk as her friend says she was, could the sex be consensual?

If a person chooses to put themselves under control of drugs or alcohol and then kills some one while driving, they cannot plead that they were not responsible because they were not in control. Could that same principle be applied to sex/rape?
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There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.
Goodell has, in the past, taken action before charges or indictments.

I would still say he barely escaped being charged. Lucky for BR, the state of GA sets a high bar for this kind of charge and the district attorney didn't move forward or take DNA evidence. Had it occured in another state, there may well have been charges filed.

Hopefully Ben wises up and learns his lesson, otherwise he may not be a Steeler much longer - from the way the team management was talking.
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There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.
Glad I got that straight in my mind. It's proper to assult women if you aren't married. Now I feel a whole lot better!!
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Glad I got that straight in my mind. It's proper to assult women if you aren't married. Now I feel a whole lot better!!
The part I liked the best was that she said she was too drunk to realize what he was doing. I'm sorry but unless you are passed out drunk you definetely realize what is happening around you and to you...
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