Matt 16;27-28

[Truthseeker]

Matt 16:27-28

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
KJV



Some say verses 27 is one thing while verse 28 is the day of pentecost.

I think both verses are refering to same event. what thinketh thou?

[mfblume]

Same event

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I mentioned this once before on this forum, but if we read before these verses, Jesus was speaking about taking up the cross, denying ourselves and following Him. Tasting death is taking up the cross. He said if we do not taste death now, we will taste death later, and we will never live again. But if we taste death now we will live again unto eternal life. It was simply SELF DENIAL he was talking about. So it hit me that when he said some will not taste death til they see the son of man coming, he meant some would not deny themselves then, but would have their lives taken later and never regained! Ands their lives in deed were later taken to never return to them again!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I mentioned this once before on this forum, but if we read before these verses, Jesus was speaking about taking up the cross, denying ourselves and following Him. Tasting death is taking up the cross. He said if we do not taste death now, we will taste death later, and we will never live again. But if we taste death now we will live again unto eternal life. It was simply SELF DENIAL he was talking about. So it hit me that when he said some will not taste death til they see the son of man coming, he meant some would not deny themselves then, but would have their lives taken later and never regained! Ands their lives in deed were later taken to never return to them again!

Interesting thought, not sure I'm buying it, but interesting.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Interesting thought, not sure I'm buying it, but interesting.

I really think it's the context, if you really check the whole passage. I noticed that when it seemed Jesus changed entired topics abruptly, that he was not actually changing topics at all.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I really think it's the context, if you really check the whole passage.

Oh I'll conmsider it. Try to stay open to others thoughts on a subject.

[Truthseeker]

John 8:52

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
KJV


Only other place Jesus uses "taste of death" obviously refers to spiritual death.

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

John 8:52

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
KJV


Only other place Jesus uses "taste of death" obviously refers to spiritual death.

I agree. To take up the cross is spiritual death, too, but a good one.

[Truthseeker]

it does appear he was speaking to the 12 disciples, so some would not pick up the cross?

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

it does appear he was speaking to the 12 disciples, so some would not pick up the cross?

Good question. Would it be only the 12? Or many others included as disciples?