Glory Clouds And Gold, or Fog and Glitter?

[Hoovie]

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...manifestations

Bill Johnson senior pastor of Bethel in Redding CA... Talks abut and shows video of a "glory cloud".

Any thoughts?

I'm skeptical.

[oneinkhorn]

[KeptByTheWord]

Skeptical too. Certainly something was going on, as you could see in the video that people had their phones out trying to capture it.

I have heard through the years that people have seen a "glory" cloud hovering over a worship service at its height, but those stories were about worship services that were held at camp meetings with a lot of people moving around, and could have been created by dust.

I don't doubt that God can manifest, and do things outside our natural realm of reasoning, and understanding. However, to follow those signs and wonders is dangerous. That is where the problem lies. When people begin to follow the signs and wonders, instead of Jesus, that is where the road forks.

[Hoovie]

The possibilities of this being a "natural" or a "staged" phenomenon is very very high, and easily duplicated IMO.

[mfblume]

I am skeptical of anything from Redding, CA. They focus too much on supernatural things that the enemy can just as easily do, or be fleshly engineered.

But I pastured a church where in the past, before my pastorate, fire trucks came and the firemen ran into e building after a reported sighting of flames on the roof. They ran in to find a rockin Holy Ghost worship service taking place.

[Reader]

It is interesting to note that in the days of Jesus and the apostles, God never chose to have feathers come down or gold or jewels. I guess he felt things like healings, casting out demons and feeding large groups of people were more important. He did things that meant something.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Reader

It is interesting to note that in the days of Jesus and the apostles, God never chose to have feathers come down or gold or jewels. I guess he felt things like healings, casting out demons and feeding large groups of people were more important. He did things that meant something.

Exactly. Things that had a practical purpose.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Reader

It is interesting to note that in the days of Jesus and the apostles, God never chose to have feathers come down or gold or jewels. I guess he felt things like healings, casting out demons and feeding large groups of people were more important. He did things that meant something.

Exactly! We've turned the power of God into sensationalism as though we live in a Disney movie. Ridiculous.

I believe in the supernatural. I believe we need to allow God to be "super" and us be "natural".

[Reader]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Exactly! We've turned the power of God into sensationalism as though we live in a Disney movie. Ridiculous.

God is not in the business of "entertaining us" though you would not know that from some churches and ministries. If our faith is such that we need feathers, gold dust, gold teeth, jewels, clouds and whatever else comes along, then something is wrong. God did not do similar anywhere in the Bible, but that doesn't stop those who promote these things. Instead, some mock and belittle when a person asks them for any scripture to back up these events.

Look back at when Jesus performed miracles - real miracles - and people still did not turn to God. People are not going to turn to God or be kept in him by these other so-called acts of God, which are not real miracles.

Others can seek and long for those things. Someone somewhere will give them what they want. For me, I have no desire for "entertainment" or following after signs.

[Hoovie]

Amen. God can do the supernatural, but chicken feathers and glitter, fog machines, dust or humidity are such flimsy claims.