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07-27-2015, 06:26 PM
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Tithes
From the WPF website articles of faith:
'Tithing was not only a tenth of one’s increase, but was also the first tenth of firstfruits. Beginning with the days of Creation, belonging to, and thus being holy unto the Lord, the idea of firstfruits is established from the very beginning. It is seen again in Genesis in Abraham paying tithes to Melchizedek ( Genesis 14:18-20, Hebrews 7:4-10). Following this, Jacob also tithed, ( Genesis 28:22) as did Israel in tithing to the Levites, ( Numbers 18:21,22) and Jesus endorsed it as something which should be routine ( Matthew 23:23). Witholding any part of the tithe was to rob God ( Malachi 3:8-10). Giving to the Lord is a privilege belonging to his people. The motive for giving is love and an awareness that whatever one possesses, it is in fact, a possession of the Master and that we are merely His stewards. Cheerful giving is the knowledge that God will meet each need. ( II Corinthians 9:7)"
I'm not sure I understand the 1st sentence, what is the point here?
I believe in tithing, but should people be ran off or forced out of church for not paying a full 10%.
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07-27-2015, 06:32 PM
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Re: Tithes
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TITHING
"We believe tithing is God's financial plan to provide for His work, and has been since the days of Abraham. Tithing came with faith under Abraham, Moses' law enjoined it, and Israel practiced it when she was right with God; Jesus indorsed it (Matt. 23:23); and Paul said to lay by in store as God has prospered you. Do not rob God of His portion, viz., tithes and offerings. (Read Mall 3)."
What's Mall 3?
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07-28-2015, 09:51 AM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Pilgram199
UPCI says:
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TITHING
"We believe tithing is God's financial plan to provide for His work, and has been since the days of Abraham. Tithing came with faith under Abraham, Moses' law enjoined it, and Israel practiced it when she was right with God; Jesus indorsed it (Matt. 23:23); and Paul said to lay by in store as God has prospered you. Do not rob God of His portion, viz., tithes and offerings. (Read Mall 3)."
What's Mall 3?
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Mal. 3 is the Law of Moses, which they teach as ended....LOL
They teach that all the Law ended except tithing...LOL
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07-27-2015, 10:19 PM
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Re: Tithes
Where do they get first fruits is tithes?
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07-28-2015, 09:53 AM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Where do they get first fruits is tithes?
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From the Law of Moses.
They teach all of the Law of Moses has ended, except tithing...LOL
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07-28-2015, 02:49 PM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Sean
From the Law of Moses.
They teach all of the Law of Moses has ended, except tithing...LOL
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Where in the law does it say first fruits is tithes?
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And someday master you. --Anon.
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07-28-2015, 02:52 PM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Where in the law does it say first fruits is tithes?
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No where.
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07-28-2015, 02:52 PM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Where in the law does it say first fruits is tithes?
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It doesn't.
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07-31-2015, 01:24 AM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Where do they get first fruits is tithes?
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But seriously, a major assumption is made off of Proverbs 3:9-10,
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9. Honour the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
10. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
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Even though the word "tithe" is not present, it is assumed that "substance" means weekly or bi-weekly income, and to honor the Lord with it, i.e. with a "firstfruits" offering, means a tithe. And not just, but a tithe that is given before anything else (hence first) is used from the substance, up to and including one's rent, mortgage, groceries, gas for the car, other utilities, child support, and/or etc.
Last edited by votivesoul; 07-31-2015 at 01:26 AM.
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08-01-2015, 09:02 AM
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Re: Tithes
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
But seriously, a major assumption is made off of Proverbs 3:9-10,
Even though the word "tithe" is not present, it is assumed that "substance" means weekly or bi-weekly income, and to honor the Lord with it, i.e. with a "firstfruits" offering, means a tithe. And not just, but a tithe that is given before anything else (hence first) is used from the substance, up to and including one's rent, mortgage, groceries, gas for the car, other utilities, child support, and/or etc.
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So there is no scriptural proof first fruits is same as tithes? They just assume it is. Hmmmm
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
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