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Old 07-29-2016, 06:52 AM
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Jesus Said To "Watch"---Watch for What?

Reading Mark 13 the other day, Jesus told us to "keep watch" because we do not know when the owner of the house will come back. He says "if he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping." Then he says, "what I say to you I say to everyone, 'Watch!'"

What do you think Jesus is admonishing us to watch for---what would constitute someone sleeping? I'm interested in hearing your opinions.
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Old 07-29-2016, 07:44 AM
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Re: Jesus Said To "Watch"---Watch for What?

It means to be ready when He comes back for his Bride or Church. He wants His Church to be repented when he comes back. The word sleep could and probably refers to someone being cold or unrepented. He said also to pray that your flight not be in the winter. In other words be doing everything you know to do is pleasing in God's eyes and don't be like the slothful servant that says the Lord delayeth His coming but have a spirit that says the Lord could come like a thief in the night in an hour that we think not.
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:15 PM
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It means to be ready when He comes back for his Bride or Church. He wants His Church to be repented when he comes back. The word sleep could and probably refers to someone being cold or unrepented. He said also to pray that your flight not be in the winter. In other words be doing everything you know to do is pleasing in God's eyes and don't be like the slothful servant that says the Lord delayeth His coming but have a spirit that says the Lord could come like a thief in the night in an hour that we think not.
He also said this in the same context and speaking...... Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:

When is the last time you lived in Judea?

Not for me.... except in application, not interpretation. This has already happened.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:15 AM
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Re: Jesus Said To "Watch"---Watch for What?

Destruction of the Temple Predicted

i think Christ is telling us to watch out for people who make doctrines out of clear, topical warnings, such as this one specifically to the people of Judea, who would not all pass away before the Temple was destroyed.
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i think Christ is telling us to watch out for people who make doctrines out of clear, topical warnings, such as this one specifically to the people of Judea, who would not all pass away before the Temple was destroyed.
Hehehehehehehehe
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:58 AM
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Hehehehehehehehe

ok i didn't mean to imply that there weren't lessons relevant to today in the passage, too, but “Watch out that no one deceives you."
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:07 PM
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i think Christ is telling us to watch out for people who make doctrines out of clear, topical warnings, such as this one specifically to the people of Judea, who would not all pass away before the Temple was destroyed.
Did Jesus come back at the destruction of the Temple? And how does this passage jibe with "all scripture is profitable". How does this passage apply to us today if it was for a specific moment that has passed?
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Did Jesus come back at the destruction of the Temple?
Yes, but which coming?

The second coming is not mentioned anywhere in the gospels except John 5. But we do read of His coming to the husbandmen who refused to give Him the fruits of the vineyard.

Matthew 21:40-41 KJV When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? (41) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

The we have this: A coming in the lifetimes of the people hearing Him.

Matthew 16:28 KJV Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

And this...

Matthew 10:23 KJV But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

That is the only coming in Matt that we read about before chapter 24 when the disciples ask about His coming.

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And how does this passage jibe with "all scripture is profitable". How does this passage apply to us today if it was for a specific moment that has passed?
How does the scriptures of the problems Paul dealt with in Corinthians apply to us today? EXAMPLES. LESSONS.

We learn to always serve the Lord and walk after Him, for judgment comes to those who don't.
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Here's my take.

It's a watch for sudden destruction. The house was broken up in the parable at a time when the owner did not think. It's like the same stress put on unexpected and sudden destruction in Noah's story, where the people married and carried on in life and did not know until the flood took them away. It's like Lot's day when it rained fire and brimstone upon the people when they never expected it.

It's not the second coming, since the resurrection has no sudden destruction associated with it, and it was spoken to those standing and listening to Jesus in that day 2000 years ago and was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem.

The christians heeded that warning and history shows not one christian perished in the siege and destruction, since they fled to Pella in safety after Jesus warned them to flee when they see Jerusalem surrounded by armies and the abomination of desolation take place.
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The christians heeded that warning and history shows not one christian perished in the siege and destruction, since they fled to Pella in safety after Jesus warned them to flee when they see Jerusalem surrounded by armies and the abomination of desolation take place.
cool, never heard that one. it even has a wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_to_Pella
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