Apostoic worship??

JoeBandy · #1 07-31-2017, 07:46 AM

I watched a few clips from NAYC17 and noticed several tweets relating to the crowds actions as true Apostolic worship. I totally disagree. Although I am and was raised UPC I never have believed in the typical run, dance, swing from the ceiling fan type worship. Is there a scripture reference in the NT that shows the apostles doing this type worship? I have a few scriptures I will post later that I believe is against this type.

aegsm76 · #2 07-31-2017, 08:16 AM

JB - so what are YOUR beliefs now.
Most of your posts that I have seen, seem to be questioning beliefs and practices that are a part of the UPC.
I admit I have not read all of your posts, so maybe that is not correct, but I see you taking shots at the UPC, regularly.
But, as I said, what are your beliefs?
Also, do you still attend a UPC church?

JoeBandy · #3 07-31-2017, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

JB - so what are YOUR beliefs now.
Most of your posts that I have seen, seem to be questioning beliefs and practices that are a part of the UPC.
I admit I have not read all of your posts, so maybe that is not correct, but I see you taking shots at the UPC, regularly.
But, as I said, what are your beliefs?
Also, do you still attend a UPC church?

I do attend UPC. And my post are not meant to be "shots" like you are taking it. I am almost 50 and was raised in UPC. My grandfather and his brother were long time pastors in the LA district. I have an uncle and a cousin who still pastor a church. I just have never believed in the "worship" in traditional UPC churches. I don't believe in the "wildness". Everywhere in scripture I read when man is contact with God its face down and prone.

aegsm76 · #4 07-31-2017, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I do attend UPC. And my post are not meant to be "shots" like you are taking it. I am almost 50 and was raised in UPC. My grandfather and his brother were long time pastors in the LA district. I have an uncle and a cousin who still pastor a church. I just have never believed in the "worship" in traditional UPC churches. I don't believe in the "wildness". Everywhere in scripture I read when man is contact with God its face down and prone.

Thanks, JB. I do not mean to take any "shots" at you.
I just do not know you as well as I do others here and that had been my impression.
Now let's get back to the original topic!

n david · #5 07-31-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBandy

Everywhere in scripture I read when man is contact with God its face down and prone.

“But about midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them, and suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and every one’s fetters were unfastened.”

Doubtful they were face down and prone while wearing shackles in jail.

“…but be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another with Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart, always and for everything giving thanks in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.”

“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, as you teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and as you sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.”

“Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is any cheerful? Let him sing praise.”

"But ye shall only do thus face down and prone," says no scripture ever.

MawMaw · #6 07-31-2017, 10:17 AM

Luke 19:40 King James Version (KJV)

40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

And I tell you respectfully, Mr Bandy,
ain't no rock gonna cry out in my place!!!

JoeBandy · #7 07-31-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

“But about midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them, and suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and every one’s fetters were unfastened.”

Doubtful they were face down and prone while wearing shackles in jail.

“…but be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another with Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart, always and for everything giving thanks in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.”

“Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, as you teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and as you sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.”

“Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is any cheerful? Let him sing praise.”

"But ye shall only do thus face down and prone," says no scripture ever.

I agree with all these praise methods but no where do I see in scripture the wildness that I am referring to.

n david · #8 07-31-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I agree with all these praise methods but no where do I see in scripture the wildness that I am referring to.

Nowhere have I seen or heard of someone actually swinging from a ceiling fan as you mentioned. You mentioned three things in the OP: run, dance and swing from the ceiling fan. Only two of those actually happen in churches - running and dancing. Both are scriptural from both Old and New Testament.

Amanah · #9 07-31-2017, 08:27 AM

Psalm 150

1 Praise the Lord.[a]
Praise God in his sanctuary;
praise him in his mighty heavens.
2 Praise him for his acts of power;
praise him for his surpassing greatness.
3 Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
4 praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
5 praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.
6 Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.

Praise the Lord.

Amanah · #10 07-31-2017, 08:31 AM

Psalm 47King James Version (KJV)

47 O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.
2 For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.
3 He shall subdue the people under us, and the nations under our feet.
4 He shall choose our inheritance for us, the excellency of Jacob whom he loved. Selah.
5 God is gone up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet.
6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.
7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.
8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness.
9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.