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Old 03-22-2018, 09:37 AM
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Are Trinitarians Saved?

If I understand partialism aright, the Oneness view of the divinity is that Jesus is the one deity who manifests as Father, Word or Son and the Sacred Spirit. The analogy of a father who is simultaneously a son and a husband incorrectly by some imprecise Trinitarians is a description of modalism. However, none of these dimensions can simultaneously manifest; it is a modification of the fourth and fifth century excommunicated Nœtians, Sabellians, Praxeans and the beliefs of Theodoret (190 AD). Thus, it is obviously not the classic doctrine of the sacred triad, who like the musical term (though a poor reflection of it) are three subsistences in one indivisible person, equal in power and glory, identical in essence. Oneness denies this subsistency.

Herein lies the question -- do Oneness believers think Trinitarians are Christians or do they adhere to the thought of the UPCI manual that we are lost? Interestingly, that question was asked by Dr Martin in the 1985 Oneness debate on the Ankenberg show. If memory serves, Dr Urshan answered God knew who is lost, but Martin (who I don't endorse) indicated he, who was then the UPCI General Superintendent, had copped out on UPCI literature. What do you think?
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:42 AM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

I believe the answer is something like....

They're as lost as 2 boys kissin.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:11 AM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

The boys may be brothers!!!!!!! You don't know! You may be lost for judging for all we know! Make sure YOU make heaven YOUR home!
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:16 AM
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God is the judge!!!!! I know many trinitarian people who are saved and I know countless "ONENESS" people who are as hell bound as the devil himself!!!
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:18 AM
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God is the judge!!!!! I know many trinitarian people who are saved and I know countless "ONENESS" people who are as hell bound as the devil himself!!!
Now that is funny!
You say that God is the judge, then you proceed to judge!
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:57 AM
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I am judging what I see! I m not judging who is saved! That is a VAST difference !!! Many Apostolics seem to think that as long as they are baptized in Jesus name they will have a straight and smooth landing to heaven.Such is not the case! There are many trinitarians who are hell bound and the same can be said for the "oneness" people
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I am judging what I see! I m not judging who is saved! That is a VAST difference !!! Many Apostolics seem to think that as long as they are baptized in Jesus name they will have a straight and smooth landing to heaven.Such is not the case! There are many trinitarians who are hell bound and the same can be said for the "oneness" people
What does that have to do with the thread? We aren't talking about works, we are talking about people believing the doctrine of the Sinity.
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I believe the answer is something like....

They're as lost as 2 boys kissin.
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

or maybe

John 8:24 24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."
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or maybe

John 8:24 24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."
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