The 7 Mountain Mandate? Anybody heard of this?

[1ofthechosen]

I was on Twitter and seen this post so hit the website? And found this? What is this garbage?
http://www.7culturalmountains.org/

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

I was on Twitter and seen this post so hit the website? And found this? What is this garbage?
http://www.7culturalmountains.org/

Please identify why you call this "garbage"?

From what I can see, it is a growing movement (largely among charismatics at the moment) focused on individual believers making an impact on the surrounding society for Christ, beyond just "get more people to come to church".

God often moves populations to set the stage for various phases of his Divine Plan. This appears to be one of those moves.

I have no doubt that the snakes and snake-oil salesmen are greedily latching on to the movement, to attempt to derail and sidetrack it into impotence (just like they did with the original charismatic movement, and as they have largely done to the Pentecostal movement), but that is ultimately irrelevant to what God is doing in multiple arenas at this time.

The sad thing is, while there are many others "out there" actively seeking the will of God for their lives, actively seeking to make an impact on their generation for the Lord, too many of "us" are busy arguing about hair, hemlines, and rapture systems.

There have been some voices in the oneness pentecostal movement over the past several decades warning that if we don't get our act together God will bypass "our movement" and find another people who will be willing in the day of the Lord's power.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Please identify why you call this "garbage"?

From what I can see, it is a growing movement (largely among charismatics at the moment) focused on individual believers making an impact on the surrounding society for Christ, beyond just "get more people to come to church".

God often moves populations to set the stage for various phases of his Divine Plan. This appears to be one of those moves.

I have no doubt that the snakes and snake-oil salesmen are greedily latching on to the movement, to attempt to derail and sidetrack it into impotence (just like they did with the original charismatic movement, and as they have largely done to the Pentecostal movement), but that is ultimately irrelevant to what God is doing in multiple arenas at this time.

The sad thing is, while there are many others "out there" actively seeking the will of God for their lives, actively seeking to make an impact on their generation for the Lord, too many of "us" are busy arguing about hair, hemlines, and rapture systems.

There have been some voices in the oneness pentecostal movement over the past several decades warning that if we don't get our act together God will bypass "our movement" and find another people who will be willing in the day of the Lord's power.

It's saying it's a business plan.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

It's saying it's a business plan.

In this day and age, what isn't?

[Esaias]

As for the actual website you mentioned, that is a particular ministry (!) of a particular man, who is trying to organise conferences and seminars for various people (especially business people) to learn how they can influence their surrounding circles and contacts.

The website holds to the "seven mountains" concept which is nothing other than an informational template for understanding influences in social systems and societies. The template divides society into seven spheres (called "mountains"), and posits that whoever is at the top of those spheres guides the society. If the ungodly occupy the top positions of influence in those spheres, then the society proceeds in an ungodly direction. If however the godly occupy the top positions of influence in those spheres, then society proceeds in a more godly direction. It is based on an analysis of historical societies for the past 2000 plus years.

The "mandate" is understood as a call for Christians to use their position in society to further influence the people around them, and hopefully to get the top positions in each sphere occupied by Christians. It should be noted that this mandate does not involve "legislated influence" but has to do with "winning friends and influencing people" through both personal evangelism and lifestyle witnessing.

http://7culturalmountains.org/pages.asp?pageid=107994

Q: Is the Reclaiming the 7 Mountains strategy about Christians taking over?

A: No, it is about encouraging Christians to serve the culture by solving societal problems through love, compassion and service as following the example of Jesus Christ. It is about serving those in key cultural spheres that the Church has abandoned. The original mandate in Genesis 1 calls for Adam and Even to exercise stewardship over the earth as God's representative. However, when Adam and Eve fell this mandate could only be restored through the death of Jesus (Luke 19:10, Col. 1:19). We do not believe Christians are to control the world or seek to have a utopia in society. However, we do believe we are called to serve the culture as we live out our faith to be salt and light in all aspects of society.

[Esaias]

The twitter screed you copied and posted is an example of leftist libtard propaganda. Anything that involves Christians doing anything other than shutting up and staying inside the four walls of their church buildings is a "plot to take over the world and burn gays and witches at the stake." Aquila can tell you all about it.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The twitter screed you copied and posted is an example of leftist libtard propaganda. Anything that involves Christians doing anything other than shutting up and staying inside the four walls of their church buildings is a "plot to take over the world and burn gays and witches at the stake." Aquila can tell you all about it.

When the church and the world's politics become entangled, it is the church that ends up compromised and leaves her garments soiled. Earthly power corrupts.

Keeping the church focused on advancing a spiritual kingdom that permeates all nations, all cultures, all peoples, all governments, without boarders or earthly political affiliations keeps the church spotless. The entire world around us can become as liberal as liberal can be... but we... the church can live for God victoriously, welcoming those whom the Spirit draws into the Kingdom. And in this mode of operation we are associated only with Jesus.

This politically obsessed Christianity is a byproduct of our media driven political culture. And, it ties the church to marching orders to take the government. And any political party wanting blind followers will pretend to buy into the movement, to gain their votes. And this is exactly what is happening in America. Sadly, the church increasingly will become associated not with Jesus, but with a political philosophy connected to a specific party. And, we see that here in America. People are increasingly rejecting the Gospel because they do not agree with the GOP... and frankly, it's become one and the same. Look at your post in which you referenced me. Many of you guys discount my sincere Christian faith because I don't agree with all of the GOP's political positions.

According to this fake Christianity, one can only be a Christian if they bow the knee to the GOP. If they vote for a Democrat, they are counted as traitors, false Christians, etc. So, clearly it's all about politics, not Christ. Not the Gospel. Not salvation. Not a spiritual kingdom without boarders or earthly politic. Which means... you're just a political hack dressed as a Christian with loud opinions that sound so "moral" people are afraid to challenge you.

Well, I'm not afraid to challenge anyone. You're a fake. And if it were not for your political vision... you wouldn't be Christian at all.

[Esaias]

Now, in all fairness to the discussion, here is Joel McDurmon's critique of the "seven mountains" concept. Keep in mind that McDurmon fancies himself a theonomist:

https://americanvision.org/5130/seve...he-same-brand/

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Now, in all fairness to the discussion, here is Joel McDurmon's critique of the "seven mountains" concept. Keep in mind that McDurmon fancies himself a theonomist:

https://americanvision.org/5130/seve...he-same-brand/

C. Peter Wagner? William Branham rang in my ears when I heard that name, and led me to this..
https://churchwatchcentral.com/2016/...lse-authority/

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Now, in all fairness to the discussion, here is Joel McDurmon's critique of the "seven mountains" concept. Keep in mind that McDurmon fancies himself a theonomist:

https://americanvision.org/5130/seve...he-same-brand/

And all that sounds good, but my Bible never said nothing about any of it. Especially what Rick Joyner was describing. If the head of that movement pulls that off, my Bible says he is the Beast that comes out of the sea, and there's nothing Christian about that. Although neither is there anything Christian about the NAR.

I hate it when they call those people Apostolic's. My wife was reading this book the other day and told me "the guy who wrote this book was Apostolic". I looked on the front and it said Bill Johnson. I said that guy is NAR and there is nothing Apostolic about that. Put that book down, that's all New Age,and mysticism.

After what you posted though, I understand more about it though, thanks!