It will take force of arms to remain free.

[Originalist]

Why should that shock us?

It took armed revolt in order for us to be able to walk in our God-given, natural rights in the first place. Why would it at all seem strange or un-Christian for us to use arms to remain free? After all, this is why the Framers included the 2nd Amendment in our constitution, for such an event as this.

A year ago China launched what amounted to a biological attack on this country. With the help of a Marxist fifth column in this country, they use this attack to sabotage our economy and to weaken our President. When it seemed he was going to be re-elected, this fifth column used sophisticated means to steal the election so a Marxist puppet regime for China could be installed. Their plan fell way short in the House and Senate. For that, they will expedite a radical agenda from day one using executive fiat. The country will be shut down for 6 weeks. The plan is to finish off as many private businesses and private schools as possible. When this 6 week period is over, the American people will be offered debt relief for government control of their lives. Even then they will underestimate the will of several States that will not comply and will raise State militia independent of the National Guard to protect their citizens.

So knowing all of this, why would we care if Trump declares a state of emergency as 3 million armed patriots take control of D.C. while millions more take control of the street of many state capitals? There will be a dictatorship in this country one way or another. A temporary dictatorship that roots out communists might be a good thing.

[Originalist]

[Originalist]

[Esaias]

I've been watching these pro Trump rallies for months now. Just got done watching several live streams from DC (actual live, as of ten minutes ago). Proud Boys, MAGA crowds etc.

The majority of these pro Trump rally goer types are literally godless heathens. Filthy mouths, profaning God's name, women dressed like whores and talking like sailors, men acting like frat bro's at a frat party.

I realise that is not the average Trump supporter (at least not here in my neck of the woods) but that is what "the movement" is putting forward.

God will not bless sin. Until Americans start actually repenting and truly getting right with God, the country will continue on its current trajectory of desolation and oppression.

Simple. As.

There was one highlight in one stream I watched, a group started chanting "Christ is king! Christ is king!" But it was very short-lived and dropped in favour of (I kid you not) "Four more beers! Four more beers!" as everyone had gathered at the Washington Monument (you know, Baal's genital?) and people were rubbing their hands on it, gushing about "This is our monument!" and "USA! USA!"

God doesn't march with profane idolaters and unsanctified fools. Sorry.

Americans better get some wisdom before marching off into battle.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I've been watching these pro Trump rallies for months now. Just got done watching several live streams from DC (actual live, as of ten minutes ago). Proud Boys, MAGA crowds etc.

The majority of these pro Trump rally goer types are literally godless heathens. Filthy mouths, profaning God's name, women dressed like whores and talking like sailors, men acting like frat bro's at a frat party.

I realise that is not the average Trump supporter (at least not here in my neck of the woods) but that is what "the movement" is putting forward.

God will not bless sin. Until Americans start actually repenting and truly getting right with God, the country will continue on its current trajectory of desolation and oppression.

Simple. As.

There was one highlight in one stream I watched, a group started chanting "Christ is king! Christ is king!" But it was very short-lived and dropped in favour of (I kid you not) "Four more beers! Four more beers!" as everyone had gathered at the Washington Monument (you know, Baal's genital?) and people were rubbing their hands on it, gushing about "This is our monument!" and "USA! USA!"

God doesn't march with profane idolaters and unsanctified fools. Sorry.

Americans better get some wisdom before marching off into battle.

Regarding the emboldened text.

To what degree? How many people still need to repent and truly get right with God before He will bless this nation? Is there a quota? How do we tell when the scales have tipped?

I am not being facetious, or difficult. I just think it's easy to see the obvious lewdness out there when/because there's a camera on it broadcasting 24-7, but much harder to discern just how many people in the good ole' US of A are hitting their knees every night crying to the Lord for mercy and forgiveness and salvation, Apostolic or otherwise.

So, I'm curious to know how we tell when God has been satisfied/placated and changes His mind and decides not to curse and judge, and to bless and favor.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Regarding the emboldened text.

To what degree? How many people still need to repent and truly get right with God before He will bless this nation? Is there a quota? How do we tell when the scales have tipped?

I am not being facetious, or difficult. I just think it's easy to see the obvious lewdness out there when/because there's a camera on it broadcasting 24-7, but much harder to discern just how many people in the good ole' US of A are hitting their knees every night crying to the Lord for mercy and forgiveness and salvation, Apostolic or otherwise.

So, I'm curious to know how we tell when God has been satisfied/placated and changes His mind and decides not to curse and judge, and to bless and favor.

How to tell? When blessings occur you know that God is blessing, amen?

Repentance and reformation aren't about people praying for mercy, forgiveness, and salvation. It is about people turning away from political idols and secular solutions and turning back to God and His ways. It means people using the Bible to dictate how they live, spend their money, educate their children, direct their marriages, run their businesses, determine their politics, etc. It means returning to living by every Word of God, in EVERY sphere of life. It means a commitment to the commandments, statutes, judgements, and laws of Almighty God, following a whole-Bible based (ie genuinely Christian) interpretation. It means people refusing to follow a multitude to do evil (which means no "voting for the lesser of two evils" nonsense). It means for example standing against gay marriage on the basis of "Thus it is written, thus saith the Lord" rather than various secular arguments that go nowhere anyway. It means people recognizing that Deuteronomy 17:15 is part of the Supreme Law, and so is Deuteronomy 17:18-19, which means people accept that nobody can validly be President or monarch or Prime Minister or Governor or mayor who is not a confessing Christian submitted to the Word of God and who is not a natural born member of the actual people constituting the nation.

All of which is considered horrible and evil by most self proclaimed Christians in this nation, including most of those "hitting their knees every night". Hear what God has said:

Isaiah 1:2-20 KJV
Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. [3] The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider. [4] Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. [5] Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. [6] From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment. [7] Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers. [8] And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city. [9] Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. [10] Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. [11] To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord : I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. [12] When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? [13] Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. [14] Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. [15] And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. [16] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; [17] Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [18] Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord : though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. [19] If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: [20] But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

"Hitting your knees every night" is an exercise in futility without actual repentance.

[Esaias]

And as for Rudy "I-helped-perpetrate-and-cover-up-9-11" Giuliani?

If you think that cross dressing clown "stands for the Republic" then you will be let down, and righteously so.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And as for Rudy "I-helped-perpetrate-and-cover-up-9-11" Giuliani?

If you think that cross dressing clown "stands for the Republic" then you will be let down, and righteously so.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Why should that shock us?

It took armed revolt in order for us to be able to walk in our God-given, natural rights in the first place. Why would it at all seem strange or un-Christian for us to use arms to remain free? After all, this is why the Framers included the 2nd Amendment in our constitution, for such an event as this.

A year ago China launched what amounted to a biological attack on this country. With the help of a Marxist fifth column in this country, they use this attack to sabotage our economy and to weaken our President. When it seemed he was going to be re-elected, this fifth column used sophisticated means to steal the election so a Marxist puppet regime for China could be installed. Their plan fell way short in the House and Senate. For that, they will expedite a radical agenda from day one using executive fiat. The country will be shut down for 6 weeks. The plan is to finish off as many private businesses and private schools as possible. When this 6 week period is over, the American people will be offered debt relief for government control of their lives. Even then they will underestimate the will of several States that will not comply and will raise State militia independent of the National Guard to protect their citizens.

So knowing all of this, why would we care if Trump declares a state of emergency as 3 million armed patriots take control of D.C. while millions more take control of the street of many state capitals? There will be a dictatorship in this country one way or another. A temporary dictatorship that roots out communists might be a good thing.

Told y'all. Rubicon Don, anyone?

A genuine Caesar is right around the corner. Probably won't be Trumpus Maximus, but give it a few more years. We're almost there.

By the way, we've been under a "temporary" state of emergency since 1933. And if you live south of the Mason-Dixon Line, you've been under "martial law" since 1865. And the rest of you got sold out in 1871 when the Union and its Republic were scrapped in favor of a CORPORATION.

Spicy times ahead.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Esaias

By the way, we've been under a "temporary" state of emergency since 1933.

What does that mean? What does that look like.

Originally Posted by Esaias

And if you live south of the Mason-Dixon Line, you've been under "martial law" since 1865.

What does that mean? What does that look like.

Originally Posted by Esaias

And the rest of you got sold out in 1871 when the Union and its Republic were scrapped in favor of a CORPORATION.

What does that mean? What does that look like?