Originally Posted by Apprehended
Gpod ol' Larry Flynt the publisher of the Hustler Magazine is going to right there with the President Carter's sister who led him to the cross alone and made confession, just like the scriptures state.
Good ol' Larry never had to repent. He just kept on destroying the young minds of millions and made millions doing it.
NOW words in Red...
••Can you assemble some new material? I've only been seeing this for a few days and I'm sick of it already. There's absolutely ZERO substance in this and it points to nothing. If you're saying here that Flynt "Believed and confessed" and still did wicked things, what's the point? Does this invalidate confession and belief?? If so, I'll rattle off a list of names who have obeyed all YOUR rules, who have spoken in tongues for hours, and continued doing evil stuff, and invalidate your system as well.
I know that you missed it, but I will try once more.
The point is:
No names mentioned…REPENTANCE IS AN IMPERATIVE. Repentance involves turning away from sin and an evil life.
My question to you is this:
How can you discount that with simply saying, “believe?” Believe. It is though you think people will be welcomed into heaven deformed with sin. Do you really believe that?
Never had to turn away in repentance calling on the name of the Lord in baptism. Never had to come out of the world. All he had to do was just give mental ascent that Carter's sister was right in what she told him.
••Repentance is "Turning" and to call on the name of the Lord, to believe, to confess, is to turn...to repent. Does that guarantee "coming out of the world" as you're defining it? Of course not, not any more than speaking in tongues does. A LOOOOOOOOOTTTTT of people have spoken in tongues and committed sexual immorality within minutes of each other. If tongues are supposed to produce change, something is REALLY wrong!
Well, I do not know about all those LOOOOOOOOTTTTTT of people that you are talking about, but I do know that each of them had to lay down their life of sin…as I tried to use ol’ Larry Flint as an example of one who never did.
As far as guarantees are concerned, I can guarantee you that if one will obey the Word of God, they will be prepared for heaven. If not, they will not be ready for heaven. Obeying the Word of God entails the act of repentance which is turning away from sin…starting a new life from sin.
Btw, I am not trying to change the subject to speaking in tongues and sexual morality. That, for the time being is a diversion. I would thank you to stay with the subject.
Just ssssssss leeeeeep. Nothing like that crazy repentance stuff, coming out of the world, picking up the cross and keeping God's commandments is required. All of that is crazy talk. Never mind "SAVE YOURSELVES FROM THIS UNTOWARD GENERATION."
••So now we have to also "Pick up the cross" and "Keep God's commands" in order to experience salvation? The list keeps getting longer. I'm gonna be worn out by the time I'm finally saved! I sure wish Jesus would do something so I didn't have to do all this stuff.
Oh wait......He did!!
Yes, he did in fact. It is called eating the flesh of Jesus and drinking his blood, without which you and I have will have no part with him. Ever try eating the flesh of Jesus and drinking His blood. First, you have to SEE the Son of God to have tat privilege.
All of the scriptures you quoted above is TRUTH. But, according to your interpretation, we just need to tear out about half of the bible. Among the many portions that we need to take Baaruk" pin knife to is:
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.\
••And which commandments should we include in this list? Should we include the command to greet one another with a holy kiss?
Now this can get funny. Don’t want anyone kissing me. I suppose you have no idea what the commandments of the Lord are. Obviously, you do not. That is no insult. I think I might have written an article on that subject. I will look for it and if I can find it, I will post it.
Some interesting words contained in this scripture if the words are not taken away either by falsifying them or just omitting them entirely:
1. Blessed... as opposed to miserable or tortured.
2. DO, his COMMANDMENTS....as opposed to doing nothing.
3. Have a RIGHT. Greek: exousia. That is, legal authority. Privledge, Power, Liberty, able, free.
4. TREE OF LIFE. Without which fruit there is no salvation and without which leaves there is no healing. Only death, destruction and loss forever will result.
5. ENTER. That is to have access to. Entrance to which there are eternal blessedness and felicities.
6. INTO THE CITY. That's the New Jerusalem that John saw coming down from God out of heaven.
••Sounds good. Don't forget to obey ALL His commands and get to kissing next Sunday at church.
I wont be kissing anyone at church. You did not have to go there. That’s ugly and yes, it is degrading.
Not complicated at all, unless one is stung by the sting of the scorpion in which death is induced. Foolish is the man who believes he an give a mental acknowledgment and verbal consent that a thing is so
••Wait, wait, wait.....You take "Belief and Confession" as found in Romans 10, to be merely "MENTAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND VERBAL CONSENT????" That's theologically insulting. To reduce great salvational truth to the level of a decision to buy a used car is horrible.
If buying a used car is one of God’s commandments, it would best to buy one or more. No need getting absurd. No kissing is required neither is buying a used car. The facts are, believing and confessing is of no account without a life commensurate to what you supposedly believed and confessed. It is nothing at all. Believing and confessing without such a life is nothing more than a mental exercise and meaningless movement of the lips.
, go on without repentance and doing God's commandments, and then believe he will spend eternity in heaven with his corrupt image then revealed in the heavenly light. No words can express how foolish is that man.
••Foolish? That word definitely applies to a lot of what I've just read.
That poor man will learn but all too late that his deformed spiritual sin diseased character will not gain entrance beyond those gates. Read the scripture that I gave you above. I could give you many. But, you can start by rationally responding to at least one of them.
Actually, that line doesn't appear in the NLT Second Edition. All my NLT's are the original....my personal preference.
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