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02-21-2008, 08:00 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
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Originally Posted by CC1
And if there is one does he dress like Porter Waggoner did with wild sequin covered jumpsuits? 
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That may have been a fashion devil there.
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02-21-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
Most stereotypes develop because there is a grain of truth at the core.
I have known some wonderful, consecrated, humble music types.
I have also seen more than my share of the temperamental, prima donna, slef-absorbed, other kind.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
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02-21-2008, 08:03 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
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Originally Posted by Amos
Most stereotypes develop because there is a grain of truth at the core.
I have known some wonderful, consecrated, humble music types.
I have also seen more than my share of the temperamental, prima donna, slef-absorbed, other kind.
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Let the church say AMEN!!! I think all creative people by nature are tempermental. Just some more than others.
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02-21-2008, 08:28 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
Don't fight it. Dismiss it.
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02-21-2008, 08:38 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
Sometimes problems arise because of the personality design of one side of an issue. Sometimes problems arise because of the failure to understand that peoples brains are wired differently.
This happens in marriages a lot.
One spouse will end up in big fights simply they keep seeing the other through their own set of logistics and fail to make an attempt to see the other sides point of view. They end up judging their very thoughts because they fail to realize that there is a different set of thought processes going on.
A successful marriage comes when the various spouses see, recognize & work with the differences in thinking rather than trying to continual force the square peg of ones thought processes through the round hole of the other spouses thoughts.
Many of the problems that might come from dealing with those of a differing temperament might be avoided if those dealing with them would spend a little effort trying to understand this differing mindset. (You do it in marriage... hopefully)
I am not saying that one should leave issues unaddressed. I am only suggesting that, when dealing with issues, meet them where they are and speak to them in languages they understand.
A little bit of effort can go a long way when dealing with people who were not raised wearing your shoes.
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02-21-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Music Devils
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
Sis, thanks for keeping yourself right, even when I know you probably had to bite really hard on your tongue (or fingers... however you look at it) to keep from saying what was probably going through your mind.
This guy doesn't deserve to get the satisfaction of seeing you lose your cool.
Good job.
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Thanks.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-21-2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
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Originally Posted by Felicity
Don't fight it. Dismiss it.
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Would you dismiss a Sunday School Teacher or an Assistant Pastor for being carnal? I mean, what is it that a musician or singer would do that would require "dismissing?"
I think we would do well to remember that most musicians and singers are volunteers, they don't get paid for what they do, and they are volunteering their service to God--not only for service, but for practice during the week and before church. Often musicians and singers are the most taken for granted and taken advantage of.
"I don't think that musicians and singers, when they are human (as opposed to "spiritual"), are any more human than any other person in the church." Perhaps its just more noticeable since they are up front in the public eye. And of course, that means more is expected of them.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-22-2008, 02:17 AM
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Re: Fighting the Music Devil
One must question the effective leadership of a pastor if he allows all the junk mentioned in the blog in his church, let alone in his music department. Chances are the music devils are the only devils running around the church.
The blog is an feeble attempt at deflecting blame for allowing situations to escalate to the point described in the bog.
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Would you dismiss a Sunday School Teacher or an Assistant Pastor for being carnal? I mean, what is it that a musician or singer would do that would require "dismissing?"
I think we would do well to remember that most musicians and singers are volunteers, they don't get paid for what they do, and they are volunteering their service to God--not only for service, but for practice during the week and before church. Often musicians and singers are the most taken for granted and taken advantage of.
I don't think that musicians and singers, when they are human (as opposed to "spiritual"), are no more human than any other person in the church. Perhaps its just more noticeable since they are up front in the public eye. And of course, that means more is expected of them.
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Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
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02-22-2008, 06:29 AM
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Leading From The Pew
Bloom where you are planted!
Seems there are many men who gain their greatest significance from the positions they have been asked to fill. Others, have not arrived there yet long for the moment they are the man. Not realizing that before they ever become the man they are already the man. Or lady if genetics require the gender clarification. Anyway, enjoy this little observation..... www.rkentsmith.blogspot.com
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02-22-2008, 06:31 AM
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Re: Leading From The Pew
Thanks RK -- your website looks great!
Still think you need a smiling picture!
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