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12-29-2010, 03:51 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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I don't think we can "accidentally" sin. Sin is willful disobedience to God's laws. You brought up stealing to feed a family as well as abusing your family. Which intent was okay? I love you so I will steal for you, I love you but I will abuse you? Because most people that abuse their souses claim to love them. Most pedophiles claim they are showing love to their victims. You don't think God knows the difference?
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I don't know if I'd call it "accidental" but ...
I think our carnal nature is so wrought with sin we can sin even subconsciously ... how to explain lustful dreams?
That came from somewhere within us ... or the toddler who lies even before they really understand they are lying.
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12-29-2010, 03:54 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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I don't know if I'd call it "accidental" but ...
I think our carnal nature is so wrought with sin we can sin even subconsciously ... how to explain lustful dreams?
That came from somewhere within us ... or the toddler who lies even before they really understand they are lying.
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You have lustful dreams DA?
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12-29-2010, 03:55 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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Both can be forgiven, still doesn't mean that it isn't a sin.
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What this thread is about is different levels of sin.. It seems most Christians cannot wrap their brain around that. Sometimes I percieve were too black and white. Heroin addiction is much more damaging then caffeine addiction.. Yet addiction is sin. Bigger "spirits" control different sins and or temptations to the human mind, that are potentially much more harmful to our long term spiritual psyche.
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12-29-2010, 03:55 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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You have lustful dreams DA?
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I've had dreams that I wake up saying ... where did that come from ... my wife has shared such dreams.
You Steve????
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12-29-2010, 03:57 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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Originally Posted by DAII
I don't know if I'd call it "accidental" but ...
I think our carnal nature is so wrought with sin we can sin even subconsciously ... how to explain lustful dreams?
That came from somewhere within us ... or the toddler who lies even before they really understand they are lying.
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We can have sinful thoughts, if we don't act upon them are we sinning?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-29-2010, 03:58 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
Levels of sin demand levels of punishment too!!
The Great Dante to the rescue!
1 Overview and vestibule of Hell
2 The nine circles of Hell
2.1 First circle (Limbo)
2.2 Second circle (lust)
2.3 Third circle (gluttony)
2.4 Fourth circle (greed)
2.5 Fifth circle (anger)
2.6 Sixth circle (heresy)
2.7 Seventh circle (violence)
2.8 Eighth circle (fraud)
2.9 Ninth circle (treachery)
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"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-29-2010, 03:59 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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I've had dreams that I wake up saying ... where did that come from ... my wife has shared such dreams.
You Steve????
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I may have but none specifically come to mind... i don't recall. 
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-29-2010, 04:01 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
I've had dreams that I'm sure didn't come from God.
I assume they came from one of satan's angels or from my old (human) nature.
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12-29-2010, 04:01 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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We can have sinful thoughts, if we don't act upon them are we sinning?
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But what is their fount ??? .... we'd like to blame the devil ... but they are sinful as you have described them ... full of sin.
It's our sin nature .... our carnality ... that produced them.
It is this very thing ... that requires us to be clothed with the righteousness of Christ ... our justification runs deep.
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12-29-2010, 04:03 PM
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Re: Levels of sin
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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge
What this thread is about is different levels of sin.. It seems most Christians cannot wrap their brain around that. Sometimes I percieve were too black and white. Heroin addiction is much more damaging then caffeine addiction.. Yet addiction is sin. Bigger "spirits" control different sins and or temptations to the human mind, that are potentially much more harmful to our long term spiritual psyche.
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So you believe God categorizes sin? He would prefer we steal than kill?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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