The Rev Dr Strange says AFF ees Hairy Tics!

[Sister Alvear]

Mohandas Gandhi SAID;

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

[Socialite]

And some have imagined an emotionless Christ.

Cute, cuddly, pastel-colored, never angry or upset, never spirited...

Yet... we know all that Christ did/said was in love. So thanks for the reminder Alvears.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

May the law of kindness even when we believe different be our guide. Sometimes those we trash are the ones that pick us up when we fall...

somewhat off topic.... I have had friends "trash" me to everyone. And when they fell, who do they come crying to? ME! and did I turn them away? NO! Rather than tell them to kick rocks I was like the good samaritan.

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Hmmm, I'm still here. Don't know that I'm 3 step, as I believe it is a process, rather than steps. I do believe in some standards and I do tithe. Not really into debating this, as I have followed all the debates and not seen anyone's mind changed either way.
I believe they left because of the lack of civility shown towards them, by some here, not due to some "indefensible" doctrinal issues.
Also, I am aware that the lack of civility worked both ways, as well.

One excuse is as good as another. Fact is, their doctrine doesn't survive scrutiny.

[Irreligious]

I know next-to-nothing about AMF...don't even know what it stands for, although I can take a guess. But I think the two forums can be described as follows:

AFF...An open forum where liberty is granted to a myriad of beliefs and thoughts, somewhat like America.

AMF...A closed forum of people who are not allowed to freely express their thoughts and disagree with the establishment, somewhat like Cuba.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Irreligious

One excuse is as good as another. Fact is, their doctrine doesn't survive scrutiny.

You believe what you believe, others don't. To others your doctrine probably doesn't survive scrutiny either. Now the attitudes of some is what I think gets some people upset. We have a few that can be sarcastic and smart alecks. Sometimes when I am just cranky I can probably be unkind, not that I want to offend or hurt anyone's feelings.

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Cindy

You believe what you believe, others don't. To others your doctrine probably doesn't survive scrutiny either. Now the attitudes of some is what I think gets some people upset. We have a few that can be sarcastic and smart alecks. Sometimes when I am just cranky I can probably be unkind, not that I want to offend or hurt anyone's feelings.

The fact remains, many have huffed and puffed and left. Those from the grace ilk? I don't really see anyone who has left. Attitudes, sarcasm, methodology, and the list goes on and on, will always be used as a reason whether it exists or not. But when all the layers are peeled away the doctrine is indefensible.

There is, after all, a really good reason why 99+% of the Christian world would call their doctrine heresy. Many in the 1% camp wear this as a badge of honor believing that God has chosen to hand the doctrinal decoder ring of privilege to only a special few.

I don't believe Christ died just to open the theological eyes of the special few.

[aegsm76]

Straight is the gate, narrow is the way and FEW there be that find it.

[houston]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Straight is the gate, narrow is the way and FEW there be that find it.

yep. still, nothin to do with the "standards" crowd.

[aegsm76]

Do you have "standards"?