I Don't Like The Terms Con and Lib!

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Someone said, "If everyone in this church was just like me what kind of church would this church be!"

Can you imagine having a church full of folks with the kind of acidic, abrasive attitude manifested by Old Paths II. I know he won't mind me saying something about his attitude because he's proud of it. But where does Charity come into the picture. And I feel certain he's not treating others as he would want to be treated because each time someone treats him the way he comes across he gets very defensive.

Oh well, OldPathsII is just OldPaths II. What more can you say?

Been Thinkin

Charity? What kind of charity is it to tell a man that's lost and dying and going to hell that he's ok? It's like a paramedic arriving at a car wreck and telling the man trapped in the car, bleeding to death, that he's just fine and not to worry about it. Wouldn't it be better to rescue him and save his life? Some of you folks here have interesting ideas about charity and kindness, and love. Brother, the most loving thing I could ever do for you is to tell you to obey the gospel or face a certain eternity of wrath.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

It's really amazing the lengths some go to in order to justify their disobedience to the clear instructions of scripture! You can locate all the verses you like, but you still can't avoid the very clear and simple instructions of John 3, Acts 2, Acts 10, Acts 19. There is no trinitarian pathway to God. Jesus said, "If you do not believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

If you want to promote G.T. Haywood's "Water & Spirit" doctrine as being "the only way to be saved" you need to answer my challenge in the previous post:

"Name for us, just one of these "Christians" (Acts 2:38 practitioners as you define them) who "believed the fulness of the Acts 2:38 message" and lived between the years 225 A.D. until 1900 A.D."

Bro. Hayward himself said that he had received this by "revelation" and that no one before his time had ever taught his doctrine.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Oooo, that's true!! I forgot about that! I've been beaten up by one particular friend of yours! He's done the beat-down on me twice! Then he friended me, I accepted it, then thought better when he did it to me again, and took him off because I was afraid he was gonna start posting angry stuff on my page. But then he kept sending me friends requests. Do you know if he's here on the forum?

Well, I was thinking of several of my Facebook friends.
I remember when LG got pretty strong with some things. He's still a friend of mine but is not very active. I've heard that he is quite ill.

Another one was JS. I preached for him in August. I made sure he knew what I believed before I did and he was OK with it. Even mentioned me coming back. Then he later unfriended me for some of the stuff I said on Facebook. Recently we've re-friended. Maybe I'll get to preach for him again. When we re-friended I told him that if he disagrees with what I say on Facebook he should go ahead and say so and it won't offend me. Actually, he has the closest church (76 miles away) that I know of in the organization I'm ordained with and he's also a Bishop in that organization. I expect to go visit him again when the weather gets better.

As far as I know, neither of those 2 are on this forum.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

If you want to promote G.T. Hayward's "Water & Spirit" doctrine as being "the only way to be saved" you need to answer my challenge in the previous post:

"Name for us, just one of these "Christians" (Acts 2:38 practitioners as you define them) who "believed the fulness of the Acts 2:38 message" and lived between the years 225 A.D. until 1900 A.D."

Bro. Hayward himself said that he had received this by "revelation" and that no one before his time had ever taught his doctrine.

Why do I need to do that and if I can't, what does that prove? Just because history hasn't recorded it doesn't mean they weren't there. Just ask the Chinese government how many Christians are in China. You think they'll tell you the truth?

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

Charity? What kind of charity is it to tell a man that's lost and dying and going to hell that he's ok? It's like a paramedic arriving at a car wreck and telling the man trapped in the car, bleeding to death, that he's just fine and not to worry about it. Wouldn't it be better to rescue him and save his life? Some of you folks here have interesting ideas about charity and kindness, and love. Brother, the most loving thing I could ever do for you is to tell you to obey the gospel or face a certain eternity of wrath.

Old Paths, don't you think the woman that was caught in the very act of adultery, was as you would say, "on her way to hell!"

Why didn't Jesus say to her, "Why you hell bound hussy, don't take up my time, don't you know your going to hell!"

No, Jesus showed the greatest charity and it wouldn't hurt you to "be Christ like" in your attitudes toward sinners as well!

In my understanding, a Christian is simply someone that is Christ like and I don't find your ranting and raving "Christ like!"

Been Thinkin

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Old Paths, don't you think the woman that was caught in the very act of adultery, was as you would say, "on her way to hell!"

Why didn't Jesus say to her, "Why you hell bound hussy, don't take up my time, don't you know your going to hell!"

No, Jesus showed the greatest charity and it wouldn't hurt you to "be Christ like" in your attitudes toward sinners as well!

In my understanding, a Christian is simply someone that is Christ like and I don't find your ranting and raving "Christ like!"

Been Thinkin

Predictably, you left out the key point that Jesus made. He said, "Go and sin no more!" A lot of our modern Pentecostal culture has mastered that art of "netiehr do I condemn thee", but we're greatly lacking in, "Go and sin no more." That's the missing part in today's church!

[El Predicador]

Singing:

One one one, one way to God

Baptized in Jesus' name.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

Why do I need to do that and if I can't, what does that prove? Just because history hasn't recorded it doesn't mean they weren't there. Just ask the Chinese government how many Christians are in China. You think they'll tell you the truth?

Why don't we ask Chinese Christians... ah! But you don't believe that the Chinese Christians are really saved, do you? I have family in China preaching and testifying to the message that is summed up in the AFF's forum rules. They fellowship with a large variety of fellow believers, baptize many people in Jesus' name and haven't ever been tempted to resort to the judgmental attitudes that you've displayed.

What gets me is that YOUR 'gospel' wasn't able to save anybody for 1,700 of the 2,000 years of the Church Age. No one. Not one person. Nobody. zilch.

Yet, MY Savior has never stopped saving since the foundation of the world.

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

Singing:

One one one, one way to God

Baptized in Jesus' name.

Simple, yet beautiful and profound song.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

Predictably, you left out the key point that Jesus made. He said, "Go and sin no more!" A lot of our modern Pentecostal culture has mastered that art of "netiehr do I condemn thee", but we're greatly lacking in, "Go and sin no more." That's the missing part in today's church!

Oh, okay I didn't finished the remark as you would typically make it. "You sorry, sinning, adulterating, fornicating hussy, you're going to hell straight as an arrow if you don't stop that sinning. Now get out of here and don't sin no more! You hear me you Jazebel."

OldPathsII you really ought to take a look at yourself. That's just how you come across to me. And I believe I'm right in saying that was not the way Jesus manifested himself. To the best of my recollection He might have said it like this, "Where is OldPathsII who condemned you so much. If he is without sin let him throw the first rock. Neither do I condemn thee, and yes, "go and sin no more!"

Would your approach and attitude stand up in a court as being "non-condemning"? I don't think so!

God bless you Old man!

Been Thinkin