The Thief on the Cross

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

I'm surprised that an opinion could make you so flaming angry. Did you not see the words, "I do not believe in death-bed repentance...?"

Having an opinion with which you disagree would cause you to become so inflamed with animosity that you would start calling me names? You must be having a very difficult time in life.

It's people like you that develop into the Scribes and Pharisees of old. Mercy is lost at the expense of your spiritual arrogance and self worth.

Apprehended, your ideas that reflect a lack of compassion for people who are dying is the result of spending too much time in front of a mirror.

You need to hold a few more dying people in your arms. Countless young men and women gave their life for you on a foreign battlefield, and some of them cried out to God for the first time while gasping for a final breath.

Call me what you will, but I believe God hears these utter cries when people die.

[Austin]

Paul said if anyone is justified by the works of the law then they have fallen from grace..
But of course Paul was probably a Baptist in doctrine and no body today that don't believe in a one time salvation experience won't adhere to his words.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by IvyWalker

Because your view of salvation is works-focused, not God's-work focused.

That is incorrect.

You are going to tell me what my view of salvation is without me having expressed it here?

Actually, a life of faith is not truly a life of faith if works of righteousness are not enjoined to that life. In each of the seven churches of Asia, Jesus reiterated these words to them, "I know thy works," followed by an observation of failure in works (except the church at Philadelphia) to whom he admonished them to repent. In each case, a consequence for not repenting of their imperfect works is cited.

A life of faith cannot be without works of righteousness if it is truly saving faith. Anyone that disparage this notion is not doing his/her listeners any good.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

It's people like you that develop into the Scribes and Pharisees of old. Mercy is lost at the expense of your spiritual arrogance and self worth.

Apprehended, your ideas that reflect a lack of compassion for people who are dying is the result of spending too much time in front of a mirror.

You need to hold a few more dying people in your arms. Countless young men and women gave their life for you on a foreign battlefield, and some of them cried out to God for the first time while gasping for a final breath.

Call me what you will, but I believe God hears these utter cries when people die.

Wow!!!!!!!!

Your anger is bursting forth like a an uncontrollable flame. That's uncalled for. Opinions do not change became someone else loses control of themselves. Calm down.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Austin

Paul said if anyone is justified by the works of the law then they have fallen from grace..
But of course Paul was probably a Baptist in doctrine and no body today that don't believe in a one time salvation experience won't adhere to his words.

Paul was correct. But, I don't know anyone today who claims to be a christian that is trying to do the works of the law. Goodness! I'll leave the Jews to that task. I understand they are still looking for a purely red heifer for when their temple is rebuilt. Further, I have no interest of going up to Jerusalem three times in a year. Travel is too expensive.

[houston]

wow!

[Austin]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Paul was correct. But, I don't know anyone today who claims to be a christian that is trying to do the works of the law. Goodness! I'll leave the Jews to that task. I understand they are still looking for a purely red heifer for when their temple is rebuilt. Further, I have no interest of going up to Jerusalem three times in a year. Travel is too expensive.

Yes, Jersulem is very far from here. I always wanted to go there all my lifetime, never really had the money to spend after raising five children. Maybe some day a rich christian will sow some seed my way.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Austin

Yes, Jersulem is very far from here. I always wanted to go there all my lifetime, never really had the money to spend after raising five children. Maybe some day a rich christian will sow some seed my way.

I'm poorer than you are. I raised six of 'em and sent them through school too. No wonder my back aches so much.

[Austin]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

I'm poorer than you are. I raised six of 'em and sent them through school too. No wonder my back aches so much.

Whew!!!!! Glory to God! I'll pray for you brother there has to be some reward in heaven for that.//

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Austin

Whew!!!!! Glory to God! I'll pray for you brother there has to be some reward in heaven for that.//

Thank you. I need it.

Maybe the thief on the cross was just trying to rake enough cash together to get his six through school. How could Christ not forgive that...after all!