My whole point is that if that is the issue, then discuss that. It is pointless when people introduce whatever particular propaganda they like even when it flies in the face of facts. That is the problem with modern day politics and all the spin machines and outlets on both sides IMO.
And that is my point actually. With these people dismissing the role GW played, his administration I thought it was fair and balanced to point out without his action there was no base of operations in either country, no years of groundwork layed by the CIA. If Obama decided to do that without that ground work, we'd still be looking for Osama. It takes time to set up an intel network and getting leads
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Sure he has, nobody said otherwise. What was said was he ran on an anti-war campaign
Prax, he never ran against the war in Afghanistan. On the contrary he ran on a platform that was very clear that that was the very necessary but neglected war that was crucial. Running against a continued, basically unwinnable war in Iraq that was costing too much in every way is not an anti-war campaign. Maybe an anti-Iraq-war-as-it-was-being-handled campaign, but not anti-war in the general sense and certainly not anti-war in connection to the war on terror (which is the relevant war for this conversation). He ran and governed in a manner that was designed to increase our efforts in this such war.
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Prax, he never ran against the war in Afghanistan. On the contrary he ran on a platform that was very clear that that was the very necessary but neglected war that was crucial. Running against a continued, basically unwinnable war in Iraq that was costing too much in every way is not an anti-war campaign. Maybe an anti-Iraq-war-as-it-was-being-handled campaign, but not anti-war in the general sense and certainly not anti-war in connection to the war on terror (which is the relevant war for this conversation). He ran and governed in a manner that was designed to increase our efforts in this such war.
Stew, he wouldn't even say the word terrorist! He spent his time apologizing. ???
Sure don't understand where you're coming from!
Been Thinkin
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Someone got lots of money for betraying OBL. That's a good deterrent, the US has an unlimited amount of money to pay someone for turning on their buddies.
Right prax, i heard a retired militay col.say the same thing just before Bo took office ,he said i promise ya when he gets debriefed about what is really going on and sees the whole picture he will get real quiet and start to realize just what he has got himself into,its mind boggling and scary on the inside he said and then to realize you have control of this machine.The economic and domestic stuff? he has lots of wackos and know it alls, from his life gone by that influence him and have his ear ,the military stuff ?they know nothing about and they cant influence him at all.
Stew, he wouldn't even say the word terrorist! He spent his time apologizing. ???
Sure don't understand where you're coming from!
Been Thinkin
Been, you really should go back and watch the videos. He was very clear that we needed to concentrate on the battle in Afghanistan that was largely being neglected because that is where the real threat against Americans were coming from. He immediately began increasing operations there. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that. I'm not telling you to vote for him, but let's at least not revise history.
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Been, you really should go back and watch the videos. He was very clear that we needed to concentrate on the battle in Afghanistan that was largely being neglected because that is where the real threat against Americans were coming from. He immediately began increasing operations there. I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that. I'm not telling you to vote for him, but let's at least not revise history.
I'll go back and take some looks and consider what you're saying. But, will you admit the problem he and the administration had in using the word terrorist? It was not something that I came up with, but I listened as others talked about the issue of the term terrorist!
BT
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Stew, he wouldn't even say the word terrorist! He spent his time apologizing. ???
Sure don't understand where you're coming from!
Been Thinkin
You almost had me convinced that I may be remembering wrong , but I just went back and watched a few videos where he was saying just what I am saying...and he did use the word "terrorist" (gasp)
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If Obama single handed wins the war on terror. If he, in person ferrets out every terrorist on planet earth and eliminates all threats foreign and domestic, it will never erase the war he and his party wage against the unborn, nearly born and acutally, but accidently born.
, but I just went back and watched a few videos where he was saying just what I am saying...and he did use the word "terrorist" (gasp)
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