Sincerely Wrong

[kingdomapostle]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You know, I am thinking that God was leading me more than I was seeking. Think that would be a bigger factor? I think that God leads us and we attribute that to something we have done on our own. After all, the Word says that we cannot come to God unless the Spirit draws us.

Yes, He is drawing me. I can't think up all this stuff by myself. lol No, even as a child sitting in the church I was raised in, I always had a suspicion that led me to what I now have as a solid belief...there is MORE to God than what they are telling me. That's when I began to seek Him for myself. I seek Him daily.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

Just a thought...

If God rewards them that seek Him, why would anyone who is HONESTLY and earnestly seeking the Lord, and who has confessed that Jesus is Lord in their life, in spite of what we say...

Go to hell?


Your thoughts?

How do you seek God? Most don't realize this... but the very desire to seek God isn't in our fallen human nature. God must draw us to Himself. If one is seeking God, asking questions, turning to the Word... we don't give them credit and praise for doing so. Why? Because they are only responding to an inward pull of the Spirit.

One can logically conclude that there must be a God and seek him accademically... but if they aren't being drawn... it's just religion.

[kingdomapostle]

Originally Posted by Aquila

How do you seek God? Most don't realize this... but the very desire to seek God isn't in our fallen human nature. God must draw us to Himself. If one is seeking God, asking questions, turning to the Word... we don't give them credit and praise for doing so. Why? Because they are only responding to an inward pull of the Spirit.

One can logically conclude that there must be a God and seek him accademically... but if they aren't being drawn... it's just religion.

Hum...well He said He would draw ALL men..but are they following His drawing?

[NorCal]

How do you know they are diligently seeking him?
We know he rewards them that do, but is that proof that they are seeking him?

We know those that diligently seek him, change into the likeness of Christ. In all aspects.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by NorCal

How do you know they are diligently seeking him?
We know he rewards them that do, but is that proof that they are seeking him?

We know those that diligently seek him, change into the likeness of Christ. In all aspects.

fruits my dear brother fruits.. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits.

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by acerrak

fruits my dear brother fruits.. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits.

Yes, but then we here on earth get back to determining good fruit according to OUR opinions.

Galatians 5:22-23

Amplified Bible (AMP)

22But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,

23Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [[a]that can bring a charge].

I feel like I have these fruits as much as the people that say I am going to hell because I left their church, in other words, God.

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by Aquila

How do you seek God? Most don't realize this... but the very desire to seek God isn't in our fallen human nature. God must draw us to Himself. If one is seeking God, asking questions, turning to the Word... we don't give them credit and praise for doing so. Why? Because they are only responding to an inward pull of the Spirit.

One can logically conclude that there must be a God and seek him accademically... but if they aren't being drawn... it's just religion.

So true!

Some are drawn to religion because the set of rules gives them "peace" that they are accomplishing what THEY want, to go to heaven and please God. Then they must find security in believing the "others" are NOT going to heaven, because if they are where does that leave them? They are doing all this for nothing and their leaders are lying to them. Okay, don't think about it, just keep following the religion.

Being drawn to God, instead of religion, causes us to have peace because we feel God's presence and don't feel a need to perform for him. We naturally do what pleases God when HE is the one we are communing with.

[Jake1611]

Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

Just a thought...

If God rewards them that seek Him, why would anyone who is HONESTLY and earnestly seeking the Lord, and who has confessed that Jesus is Lord in their life, in spite of what we say...

Go to hell?


Your thoughts?

Well, it isn't enough to just seek God. One must be spiritually born again. Take people like the JWs and the mormons. They will tell you they love God, seek His favor and do all the "right" things. Yet these folks are not saved, sincere though they may be in their search for the truth. This honestly seeking the Lord MUST lead to spiritual rebirth for God to reward them.

[Godsdrummer]

Just a thought

If sin is sin no matter how big or small, then false doctrine is false doctrine no matter how far off or close to truth. The point is if a group beleives they have the whole truth yet are wrong in areas of works based teachings, what is the difference between them and a group that teaches or missunderstands the diety of God?

On the same thought even in oneness groups they cannot agree on thier understanding of the oneness or definition. As seen right here on this forum, how can one group condenm another group that does not see things in the same light as they do? WE can't.

[kingdomapostle]

We can't but God is the judge. Better be right with Him. He gives us a guide-- the Bible.