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Old 06-20-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

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Do you think the propensity to sin a "SIN NATURE" (a force that causes us to do that which is morally wrong - MORAL FORCE) that we are born with that Adam was not created with? Are Paul's words about sin WARRING against the law of his mind a sin nature? If not, why was there a WARRING? What WARRED in him that was distinct from himself (Since Paul said "it is not I that do it, but SIN that dwelleth in me")? Is this SIN in him a moral force?
Indeed it is a moral force, in my opinion. More accurately, an immoral force. I don't think Adam was created with it. He was poisoned with this propensity at the moment he sinned and sin entered in and upon the whole human race. We have been bothered by it ever since the garden.

This war that waged in the members of Paul are nothing unlike the same war that wages in the members of each of us. The flesh lustest against the Spirit and the Spirit lustesth against the flesh, thus in the members we find that we do what we would not do since the law is alive and active. As Paul so accurately place the situation... since it is flesh and since in the flesh made alive by the law, to do that which we would not do, we are sold into captivity of the flesh with all its Adamic propensities.

Thank God for the Holy Ghost. Even WITH the Holy Ghost, the battle rages and very often teeters on the precipice of defeat and victory. The greatest battles fought are seldom on the field of conquest in a far away land, but within our members, particularly between the ears. Though one might be declared sinless, guilt free and without blame, yet the Adamic inclinations in unredeemed flesh yet remain.

Honestly, I have failed from time to time. Yet, even when I've been unfaithful, he, like a friend that sticketh closer than a brother, his love and devotion to me remains faithful.

IMHO, of course.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

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Thank God for the Holy Ghost. Even WITH the Holy Ghost, the battle rages and very often teeters on the precipice of defeat and victory. The greatest battles fought are seldom on the field of conquest in a far away land, but within our members, particularly between the ears. Though one might be declared sinless, guilt free and without blame, yet the Adamic inclinations in unredeemed flesh yet remain.

Honestly, I have failed from time to time. Yet, even when I've been unfaithful, he, like a friend that sticketh closer than a brother, his love and devotion to me remains faithful.

IMHO, of course.
you said it well brother! Amen!
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