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06-23-2011, 02:28 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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06-23-2011, 02:31 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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I think that pretty much sums it up, not that traditions and standards are viewed as something to be shunned by one group more than the other, just that Charismatics tend to exist outside long-standing denominational structures.
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Most Pentecostals don't believe in standards
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06-23-2011, 02:32 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
There were tongues and interpretation last night at my church.
One thing that stood out right away was that the person who spoke in tongues was the one who gave the interpretation.
It has been my experience in the past that whenever someone spoke in tongues (in that way) someone else gave the interpretation.
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Paul said let he that speaks in a tongue pray to interpret so the church would be edified...BTW this is the wrong thread for that topic
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-23-2011, 02:32 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Someone define Charismatic...
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Already defined. Read through the thread
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-23-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Most Pentecostals don't believe in standards
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Well... not as we may think of them, but I think they generally do have a belief structure that is codified in their denomination.
I guess all I am really saying is that Charismatic Christians do not tend to be affiliated with denominations.
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06-23-2011, 04:22 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
Let me clarify. Most pentecostals don't have an outward appearance standard involving clothing, makeup, Jewelry and hair, but also including such activities as movies and TV etc etc
Most do not. Perhaps most Oneness Pentecostal groups do but when it comes to Pentecostal Id say most do not
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-23-2011, 06:31 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Well... not as we may think of them, but I think they generally do have a belief structure that is codified in their denomination.
I guess all I am really saying is that Charismatic Christians do not tend to be affiliated with denominations.
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Actually in the beginning of the movement thats what it was all about. Baptists, Catholics, Lutherans, Whatevers who were getting the Holy Ghost and STAYING in their Churches.
After a while they began to form Churches made up of those leaving the various denominations.
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06-23-2011, 08:47 PM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Actually in the beginning of the movement thats what it was all about. Baptists, Catholics, Lutherans, Whatevers who were getting the Holy Ghost and STAYING in their Churches.
After a while they began to form Churches made up of those leaving the various denominations.
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there is a book called the 2oth century pentacostals, talks about topeka kansas and asuza street. really everyone one from all over the place didnt matter the denomenations came to this,
Infact the racial walls was down and really blacks and white mixed together with out segregation, which was awsoem in itself.
the term charasmatic just means gifts, nothing more.
the wesleyan movement believed in the baptism of the Holy spirit but they didnt view it with initial evidence.
william seymour really didnt teach initial evidence as well, but in some newspaper he did make the comment that all the gifts of the Spirit was at work. Its amazing how this revival kept going with out any human organization. it truely was organized by God
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06-23-2011, 11:40 PM
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I read Catholic Pentecostalism. It was an interesting read. It is about the charismatic renewal.
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06-24-2011, 05:06 AM
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Re: Pentecostals Vs. Charismatics
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Paul said let he that speaks in a tongue pray to interpret so the church would be edified...BTW this is the wrong thread for that topic
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I should have made it clear why I posted this here.
In my years of attending Oneness Pentecostal churches, whenever someone spoke in tongues for the entire congragation to hear, someone else would give the interpretation.
Attending this charismatic church now and this is the first time I have ever seen the person who is speaking in tongues to deliever a message from the Lord give the interpretation of that message.
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