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08-24-2011, 09:04 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
I understand that there will always be some people that believe that I am a rebellious heathen.  Just have to grow a thicker skin, I suppose.
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08-24-2011, 09:04 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
How do we know why they avoided her?
Mirth, have you talked to your husband about the encounter?
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08-24-2011, 09:09 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
I guess it's just about the church you went to. I have never been treated this way. I ran into my former pastor's wife at the grocery store, I was back slid. We had a conversation, the gist of it was, we love you, get back in church.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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08-24-2011, 09:17 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
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How do we know why they avoided her?
Mirth, have you talked to your husband about the encounter?
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Yes, I did. He was actually inside the store when it happened. (I wonder if they would have done the same thing if he had been standing beside me.)
He just shakes his head at stuff like this. He knows it's not right, but what can he do? I just let it drop because I don't like putting him in the middle anymore than he already is.
I grew up in a very different UPC church than what he grew up in. I've seen a lot of spiritual abuse over the years, and cult-like practices. His home church was more mainstream (In a completely different state). So I've questioned things, and put the study time in, while he is perfectly happy with the way things are. (to an extent)
I think how you treat people is very telling...
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08-24-2011, 03:40 PM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
Keep listening to the backslid people on this site and you will end up in more trouble than you can get out of!
They are closer to being gnostics (there is no sin just do what you want to)than christian.
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08-24-2011, 04:20 PM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
I haven't experienced shunning. The church I left has been taught very well about genuine Christian behavior.
I have seen it in action, though, several years ago at a different church. I didn't follow along, I remained very friendly towards the outcasts. They didn't know how to take it. 
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08-24-2011, 04:32 PM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
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Yes, I did. He was actually inside the store when it happened. (I wonder if they would have done the same thing if he had been standing beside me.)
He just shakes his head at stuff like this. He knows it's not right, but what can he do? I just let it drop because I don't like putting him in the middle anymore than he already is.
I grew up in a very different UPC church than what he grew up in. I've seen a lot of spiritual abuse over the years, and cult-like practices. His home church was more mainstream (In a completely different state). So I've questioned things, and put the study time in, while he is perfectly happy with the way things are. (to an extent)
I think how you treat people is very telling...
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Wow, he doesn't have a problem with going to different churches?
It sure is, it's very hurtful I think to be treated as an outcast for any reason.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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08-25-2011, 06:32 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
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Keep listening to the backslid people on this site and you will end up in more trouble than you can get out of!
They are closer to being gnostics (there is no sin just do what you want to)than christian.
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And if people listened to you there would be NO Christians.
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08-25-2011, 10:32 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
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You might read this....
( Rom 16:17) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned and avoid them.
Many people feel they they are commanded to avoid people like you.
You said that your feeling were hurt. Have you considered how you made your husband feel when you left the church?
I should think that you destroyed his ministry. For if he can't keep his own wife in church how can he help or preach to anyone else.
It seems to me that you didn't only reject this church, but also the spiritual authority that God placed over you, i.e. your husband. ( Eph 5:22-24)
I would suggest that you find a place to pray and repent and ask the Lord to help you get your flesh under subjection to the will of God. |
Are you her pastor? If so, I can see why she would want to leave after a response like that. Do you know more than we know? Your response leads us to believe you've consulted with her husband and are criticizing her for her leaving. Did you think to wait for more possible details? You know, there are more sides to a story than one. And all we've seen is one side here, hers. But, there are probably far more details she's wise enough not to disclose. Let's try to respond based on what's presented instead of assuming as you have done.
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08-25-2011, 11:24 AM
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Re: Shunning: Biblical?
Who says it was shunning? Some people just do not deal with confrontation very well and would rather avoid it all together.
Has the pastor stood on the platform and said "Do not have anything to do with such'n'such person"? Avoidance and shunning are 2 separate issues.
I think you conciseness is speaking to you. You should listen. Maybe conviction?
Last edited by NorCal; 08-25-2011 at 11:27 AM.
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