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Matt Maddix
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10-12-2011, 06:41 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
I didn't watch the video but I am not a MM fan. I have watched his antics online (somersaults, flips, etc at random during his screaming...er...preaching) and it made me embarrassed to be considered Pentecostal. No one person could epitomize more what I don't like about old time Pentecost than this person in the pulpit. He may be the finest person in the world so please don't think I am impuning him personally.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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10-12-2011, 07:06 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by CC1
I didn't watch the video but I am not a MM fan. I have watched his antics online (somersaults, flips, etc at random during his screaming...er...preaching) and it made me embarrassed to be considered Pentecostal. No one person could epitomize more what I don't like about old time Pentecost than this person in the pulpit. He may be the finest person in the world so please don't think I am impuning him personally.
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Well, you didn't mention anything personal that he did or that involved him so you are good. I can tell you that I agree with you. Part of the "old" me that liked that kind of stuff looks and is like "yeah man you go!" but the now, notice I didn't say old  , looks and says, "yeah, man, you go and do that and I'll turn off the video..." I don't mind his sermons, if I am listening to them, but watching him is another animal. He isn't not my favorite that screams a lot....
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10-12-2011, 07:42 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
I appreciate the work the did in their city and I appreciate his zeal...but I agree with CC1, the nutjob behavior is a turn off
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10-12-2011, 07:45 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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I appreciate the work the did in their city and I appreciate his zeal...but I agree with CC1, the nutjob behavior is a turn off
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Prax, I also have heard he has done a lot of good things in his city which I applaud. Of course Roman Catholic charities also do a lot of good in their cities and that doesn't mean I approve of them when it comes to church!
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-12-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Prax, I also have heard he has done a lot of good things in his city which I applaud. Of course Roman Catholic charities also do a lot of good in their cities and that doesn't mean I approve of them when it comes to church!
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MM's personality is over the top, that's for sure. However, there's quite a distinction between having an annoying (or even offensive) preaching style and being doctrinally incorrect.
I followed MM on twitter for awhile, but he posted so much I finally "unfollowed." He's passionate and doesn't understand why everyone else isn't doing everything that he's doing. LOL!!!! My husband attended one of his boot camps a few years ago and found it life changing. I understand the frustration, too. When you're giving 150% of yourself to a cause, it can be hard to accept other people giving only 10%. (speaking of time and energy here; not money)
One thing I deeply respect: His ideas about churches getting out of their walls, getting their hands dirty and giving back to the community. For a lot of people who are accustomed to trying to win more tithes-payers, MM's methods are quite the culture shock, and I think it's a much needed jolt.
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10-12-2011, 09:42 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
MM's methods are quite the culture shock, and I think it's a much needed jolt.
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I have never subscribed to the idea that the end justifies the means.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-12-2011, 09:53 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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I have never subscribed to the idea that the end justifies the means.
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Sure you do. An innocent man died for the forgiveness of your sins. Did the end there justify the means?
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10-12-2011, 10:48 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Sure you do. An innocent man died for the forgiveness of your sins. Did the end there justify the means?
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You are completely missing the point. What I said has nothing to do with the example you gave. Jesus being the perfect sacrifice for our sins was something that was necessary for our salvation and logical. MM doing somersaults in the middle of his screaming sermons is not necessary or desired by anybody other than some OP's who seem to revel in those type of antics and attach spirituality to them. I find it a sad situation.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 07:55 AM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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You are completely missing the point. What I said has nothing to do with the example you gave. Jesus being the perfect sacrifice for our sins was something that was necessary for our salvation and logical. MM doing somersaults in the middle of his screaming sermons is not necessary or desired by anybody other than some OP's who seem to revel in those type of antics and attach spirituality to them. I find it a sad situation.
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How can you be soo sure that it wasn't necessary in order to grab some poor lost soul's attention and bring him to God? Don't get me wrong, I dislike the crazy antics myself. But I also remember a passage where Paul wrote that we should not judge another's servant.
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