I don't know MM, so this is a simple observation with some clinical knowledge, he looks like he has ADHD, which is not a knock, some of the most successful people do.
It means that he will be more amped up, energetic and loose around the edges. But more power to him, we need some cutting edge people in the Spirit Filled Movement.
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I find your assessment interesting. I doubt MM or others of us who sometimes go beyond what is deemed "necessary or desired" will ever change our unseemly behaviors to assuage the Michals who look down from their windows with disdain at the ridiculous actions of the Davids out in the streets.
In some areas of the country these things are more accepted than in other areas though. I am not all for doing the "nutty" things in a service though I have done some in the past. I know whatever I say won't make it stop or anything, but... I will say that I think many-a-preacher do crazy things to get a reaction and not because they feel God told them to hop onto the pulpit. I have been in some services that the preacher didn't raise his voice in a scream and didn't jump on pulpits, because there weren't any pulpits around, that have done more good in my life than those that have. I'm ok with emotional preaching when there is something to be said, but I am not for it when it is just emotions. ****I am not saying MM preaches just for an emotional response and doesn't have anything to say, he does have good things to say. I was using that as an example only.****
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I find your assessment interesting. I doubt MM or others of us who sometimes go beyond what is deemed "necessary or desired" will ever change our unseemly behaviors to assuage the Michals who look down from their windows with disdain at the ridiculous actions of the Davids out in the streets.
And the sentiments in your post has been used for ages to justify the unjustifiable. It is laughable to try and sanction any and everything based on David dancing naked in the street. How about addressing my points about Jesus' ministry and that of the New Testament Apostles? Have any instances there of somersaults and other absurd behavior? Not in my Bible my friend.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Again I am saying with your logic all behavior is correct in preaching if there is one mentally handicapped in the world who will respond to some absurdity. No I do not think preachers should resort to idiocy in the pulpit to somehow reach some wacko it will appeal to. Common sense has to prevail and common sense tells me there is no logical or biblical precedent for turning somersaults and screaming during a sermon. Absolutely no Biblical precedent for that. I don't recall Jesus doing that during the sermon on the mount or any other time during his ministry nor do we have any record in Acts or the epistles of the Apostles acting like idiots.
Have you considered how many people would be turned off by stupid behavior and perhaps never darken the door of a pentecostal church again? I bet there are a lot more of those than the wackos who would be "reached" by those somersaults.
I sure have considered those. Christianity is big enough to have some churches who distance themselves from those antics enough so that both types of people will be appealed to.
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I was very impressed with his blog where he talks about how husbands and wives should treat each other and he gets personal about his relationship with his ex wife and how important it is to their son that they speak kindly about each other and get along for the sake of their son. Some good wisdom shown there.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
You are completely missing the point. What I said has nothing to do with the example you gave. Jesus being the perfect sacrifice for our sins was something that was necessary for our salvation and logical. MM doing somersaults in the middle of his screaming sermons is not necessary or desired by anybody other than some OP's who seem to revel in those type of antics and attach spirituality to them. I find it a sad situation.
Well, it is the foolishness of preaching that................
Well, it is the foolishness of preaching that................
Do a little study and I think you will find that scripture doesn't refer to the preacher being a buffoon.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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