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Old 10-29-2011, 07:12 AM
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Re: House churches/Organic church, your opinion?

Thank you Jay! What a refreshing and finally truthful post on this thread!
It was stated by Aquila that the goal of the house churches is to start other house churches to start other house churches. He said "House churching grows by multiplying fellowships home by home."
The fact is most of them are temporary and unstable. They attract unstable and rebellious people that reject spiritual authority and accountability. They do not sit around and drink coffee and let everybody prophecy. The first time someone is told their "prophecy" is out of order...they get people riled up and leave and take a few with them and start their own little house meetings and talk about how bad they have been done until someone blows up on them and then it splits. Most of these little house prayer meeting/churches are here today and gone tomorrow. No stability at all.
My parents opened our home when I was a child and a church was started in our home. We grew until we had to move the church out of the house into a larger facility. We were there until we could buy property then build a building and today a great church is in that city. A house is a good way to gather your initial start ups but you have to have a plan. If the plan is just to start other start ups and keep having house churches where people sit around and tell stories about how bad the MEGA-CHURCHES are and how they could not jump up and take over the service, then that is so rebellious & disorderly and it will fail - and they do fail every week. I wish you guys would get off this rebellious kick of telling us how incredible the house churches are because most of us could tell you horror stories about the ones we know about. My youngest son was almost destroyed in one of these crazy "house churches". Thank God for a Pastor that took authority and stopped the meetings and ministered to my son and saved him from the whole rebellious "the building is not the church" rhetoric.

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Old 10-29-2011, 07:19 AM
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:43 AM
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Re: House churches/Organic church, your opinion?

You know the greatest church you could ever hope to go to is right there in Melbourne and I have preached there more than any other place on the planet!. Be sure and get Dr. Tim McClure's new book - BEYOND CHURCH WALLS - a Fresh Look At Getting Church Out of Church!

For anyone on the Space Coast- visit PROMISELAND CHURCH with Dr. Tim McClure. http://promiseland.org
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Thank you Jay! What a refreshing and finally truthful post on this thread!
It was stated by Aquila that the goal of the house churches is to start other house churches to start other house churches. He said "House churching grows by multiplying fellowships home by home."
The fact is most of them are temporary and unstable. They attract unstable and rebellious people that reject spiritual authority and accountability. They do not sit around and drink coffee and let everybody prophecy. The first time someone is told their "prophecy" is out of order...they get people riled up and leave and take a few with them and start their own little house meetings and talk about how bad they have been done until someone blows up on them and then it splits. Most of these little house prayer meeting/churches are here today and gone tomorrow. No stability at all.
My parents opened our home when I was a child and a church was started in our home. We grew until we had to move the church out of the house into a larger facility. We were there until we could buy property then build a building and today a great church is in that city. A house is a good way to gather your initial start ups but you have to have a plan. If the plan is just to start other start ups and keep having house churches where people sit around and tell stories about how bad the MEGA-CHURCHES are and how they could not jump up and take over the service, then that is so rebellious & disorderly and it will fail - and they do fail every week. I wish you guys would get off this rebellious kick of telling us how incredible the house churches are because most of us could tell you horror stories about the ones we know about. My youngest son was almost destroyed in one of these crazy "house churches". Thank God for a Pastor that took authority and stopped the meetings and ministered to my son and saved him from the whole rebellious "the building is not the church" rhetoric.

I love my church!
Come visit us a Free Chapel Worship Center in Gainesville, GA on Sundays at 9 AM & 11 AM or Orange County, CA at 10 AM, 4 PM & 6 PM.
www.FreeChapel.org
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:55 PM
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I do not support the house church movement as such. Everything I have read leads me to believe that they tend to be temporary rather unstable. Also, they seem to reject the idea of any spiritual authority and accountablility. I am not saying that all do, but that tends to be the attitude of the ones that I have talked to that left 'established' churches.
They can seem temporary, but the philosophy is different. You see, a house church isn't focused on membership and establishment. They are way stations on the journey of personal salvation and spiritual growth. Many fade because they are not networked. I'd steer clear of a house church that isn't networked with others or a larger body.

One thing I know is manny hurt purple go to house church. Sometimes authority is feared. However, a healthy house church is more like a family than a corporation with a CEO. Elders are spiritual fathers, not little lords over the people. As a father counsels their children, but allow for choices that they may not easily support, so do house church elders. Also, as a father, elders counsel and guide through the consequences of their children's choices with love.

Lastly, house churches are rooted in the doctrine of the priesthood of all believers. Elders therefore are equals with a mentoring and guiding ministry through the pastoral gift. They are not men in a superior "position" to control others.

I hope that adds a bit of perspective.

God bless.

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Old 10-29-2011, 04:02 PM
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You know the greatest church you could ever hope to go to is right there in Melbourne and I have preached there more than any other place on the planet!. Be sure and get Dr. Tim McClure's new book - BEYOND CHURCH WALLS - a Fresh Look At Getting Church Out of Church!

For anyone on the Space Coast- visit PROMISELAND CHURCH with Dr. Tim McClure. http://promiseland.org
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