Old Time Pentecost

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

One problem guys. What about the unbiblical issues they teach? Sin for men to wear a beard? Sin for women to trim their hair? These false teachings have probably turned many thousands of people away from the Oneness Churches. And of course the very logical question is TV worse than the internet? This would just be a start of the teachings that cancel out some of the good things among old time Pentecost.

yes, "teachings". As I have said, he didn't say this was being taught. Unless he changes that in a future post, he is describing "personal" convictions through prayer.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

One problem guys. What about the unbiblical issues they teach? Sin for men to wear a beard? Sin for women to trim their hair? These false teachings have probably turned many thousands of people away from the Oneness Churches. And of course the very logical question is TV worse than the internet? This would just be a start of the teachings that cancel out some of the good things among old time Pentecost.

Being in the most conservative circles I have never heard beards taught as sin. Furthermore, there is scriptural foundation for uncut hair. In my oponion, internets main purpose is information, television's purpose is entertainment and it is ungoldy entertainment at that. One must ask, if these teachings are false, why do such tremendous moves of God accompany them and seem to dissipate when these convictions are loss? Why do those who let down in these areas also let down in prayerand fasting. Just some thoughts to ponder. The intent of this thread is not to debate these things, however.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Being in the most conservative circles I have never heard beards taught as sin. Furthermore, there is scriptural foundation for uncut hair. In my oponion, internets main purpose is information, television's purpose is entertainment and it is ungoldy entertainment at that. One must ask, if these teachings are false, why do such tremendous moves of God accompany them and seem to dissipate when these convictions are loss? Why do those who let down in these areas also let down in prayerand fasting. Just some thoughts to ponder. The intent of this thread is not to debate these things, however.

Good question. How come it is that so much false religion and unscriptural belief can lead to such blessings, salvations, miracles. ?

They won't answer that. And when they do, they will tell you that they experience those things too without living like you do.

Welcome to the label of "selfrighteous".

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Being in the most conservative circles I have never heard beards taught as sin. Furthermore, there is scriptural foundation for uncut hair. In my oponion, internets main purpose is information, television's purpose is entertainment and it is ungoldy entertainment at that. One must ask, if these teachings are false, why do such tremendous moves of God accompany them and seem to dissipate when these convictions are loss? Why do those who let down in these areas also let down in prayerand fasting. Just some thoughts to ponder. The intent of this thread is not to debate these things, however.

KC,

Great posts! I loved reading your testimony! It stirs a craving within.

In response to your post above, in my opinion, the "sin" of TV isn't the tv itself... as there is certainly good and evil in everything (books included)... rather, the sin is in the spirit of laziness that often accompanies TV watching. If we were to take TV out of our lives, or at least spend as much time being fed by the Bible and things of God as we do TV... then surely our church services will be more powerful.

We definitely need to redirect our center of focus toward God.

JMHO.

[Titus2woman]

Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9 Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,[b] 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”

13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]

22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:

“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’[e]

29 “Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,

“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
35 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’[f]

36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
The Fellowship of the Believers
42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

"OLD TIME" Pentecost is not about hair on the scalp or the face of either gender, or clothes, or jewelry, or even about brush arbors, prayer meetings and good old gospel music. It is about the spirit falling on a person and filling them and changing a life forever from the inside out. The rest is all social preference, no more, no less and trying to make those things replace or accompany spiritual infilling is a work of man and not of God.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

"OLD TIME" Pentecost is not about hair on the scalp or the face of either gender, or clothes, or jewelry, or even about brush arbors, prayer meetings and good old gospel music. It is about the spirit falling on a person and filling them and changing a life forever from the inside out. The rest is all social preference, no more, no less and trying to make those things replace or accompany spiritual infilling is a work of man and not of God.

Horse pucky.

Do you believe one can have personal convictions ?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by scotty

Horse pucky.

Do you believe one can have personal convictions ?

Their personal convictions have nothing to do with my fellowship with Christ. The truth does.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Their personal convictions have nothing to do with my fellowship with Christ. The truth does.

Exactly. And no one has asked you to change your fellowship with Christ because of ones personal convictions.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by scotty

Exactly. And no one has asked you to change your fellowship with Christ because of ones personal convictions.

....exceptin the ones with personal convictions against beards.

Maybe no one HERE but others have none the less.

[Titus2woman]

Horse Puckey? Is that the official Pentecostal way of saying manure, dung, poop, ........? I live on a farm and raise horses and I've never seen a 'puckey'. Could that be construed as cussing?

Please find the term 'personal conviction' in scripture? When you do, I will begin believing in them, LOL! Illuminating is the fact that every person I have ever heard use the term has a pre-made list of the ones I should have in order to be saved.

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. –Romans 14:7-18.