Arnold Murray

[houston]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

I always admired red necks, but they should not preach.

I'd say "Amen," but we'd lose half of our preachers.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by houston

I'd say "Amen," but we'd lose half of our preachers.

Lol, that kind of ends up being the point, imo. Your preacher isn't perfect, although you may have him on a pedestal--just ask him. You are never going to be taught by a perfect person, Christ excepted, but you are instructed nontheless, if you seek knowledge, and not splinters.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

For what it's worth, Murray does have a "serpent seed" doctrine that apparently causes people some trouble. I'm aware of other "serpent seed" doctrines, and not sure how much his agrees with others--his usually do not.

I can say that Murray would never have this be a condemnation of anyone or group personally, which I think is the gist of some other serpent seed doctrines, but rather an explanation of original sin, Kenites, and, surprise "THY seed and her seed." Repeated quite a bit throughout the Bible, again at I John, etc.

Like most of what many might call his "fringe" theology, I don't think, and Murray certainly doesn't push, that any of this is necessary for salvation, but understanding...
...you cannot be long deceived more than maybe one step, even as a new Christian, if you are earnest; the fruit will be made plain to you. Ok, that last part is kind of "off the Res," and it's early : )

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[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

For what it's worth, Murray does have a "serpent seed" doctrine that apparently causes people some trouble. I'm aware of other "serpent seed" doctrines, and not sure how much his agrees with others--his usually do not.

I can say that Murray would never have this be a condemnation of anyone or group personally, which I think is the gist of some other serpent seed doctrines, but rather an explanation of original sin, Kenites, and, surprise "THY seed and her seed." Repeated quite a bit throughout the Bible, again at I John, etc.

Like most of what many might call his "fringe" theology, I don't think, and Murray certainly doesn't push, that any of this is necessary for salvation, but understanding. I kind of have Matt's attitude now; I don't really care where God takes me in my walk, as long as I'm going, and I trust that God has/will give me discernment for what may lie ahead. And Dordt, I apologize, but I just recently came from your pov, and I understand it, and even respect it, but feel that if one suspends their natural dis-inclination to learn something new that might seem to threaten a cherished "theology," wonderful things will happen.

You are a child of God, and if you are earnestly seeking God you are hedged about with protection. Murray has some other, possibly controversial doctrine, "3 earth ages," etc., but I'd like to get some feedback on the serpent-seed thing first--what is the AP explanation for all the "serpent-seed" references in the Bible? What could "THY seed" mean, if not progeny? What is a Kenite? Is there some alt "serpent seed" doctrine that may not be Biblical, and is intruding here? Ty

This trip is only a couple years old for me, but I can tell you that it has made me aware that my theology, my current one that is, will completely change before I am done here, and that used to be my biggest fear as a Baptist, was that some satanic influence would alter my theology--it just doesn't work like that, imo, you cannot be long deceived more than maybe one step, even as a new Christian, if you are earnest; the fruit will be made plain to you. Ok, that last part is kind of "off the Res," and it's early : )

I'll give up after this, but I don't have any other doctrine to even compare this to? So I'm not sure of any of its controversial points. I'm curious what the alternative even is here, ty.

[bbyrd009]

Arnold Murray accepts no pay for teaching the Word, hmm...
And I note that you have to hunt for a way to even send them $, lol.