Wearing a Suit and a Tie - Page 11

Bro. Robbins · #**101** 05-03-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I have much the same situation, although my best friend will go to almost any church service wearing jeans, boots, and a button down shirt. I have spoken to many people, some of whom (they are ladies) frown upon women wearing pants to church. This has made for many interesting conversations.

I also agree with you about thermostats vs thermometers. The problem has been this way for many years. Denominational and especially Mainline Christianity have become reflections of the culture. Thus they approve gay clergy after the culture celebrates the gay lifestyle in books, movies, and television. They have also turned wishy-washy on the issue of abortion, the inspiration of Scripture, and many other things. Then they want to tell us how we should dress and conduct ourselves in church lest we be seen as out of touch with the culture.

I do not look good barefoot, and you will find my feet wearing nothing shorter than a calf high sock unless in a great hurry (and even then the socks are likely to be applied in the car). I would never be caught making a call in a pair of sandals. However, if caught by an emergency, it would be expected that the first priority would be to get to the hospital.

$10 ties. I would like to know where you buy yours as I rarely pay less than $30 or so (sometimes). I generally only buy a new tie if I am buying an entirely new outfit. This generally means that I am spending about $200 total for a suit, shirt, vest, and a tie or two. This is of course me buying from JC Penny's, which only happens once a year or less. I really need two or three suits, but I only have one.

$10 ties... Goodwill and great sales at K&G. K&G (national chain) also has a buy one suit, get two free sale about 3 or 4 times a year. You'll pay for alterations, but still come out with a steal... and they are nice suits, stacey adams, perry ellis, etc.

Jay · #**102** 05-03-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

$10 ties... Goodwill and great sales at K&G. K&G (national chain) also has a buy one suit, get two free sale about 3 or 4 times a year. You'll pay for alterations, but still come out with a steal... and they are nice suits, stacey adams, perry ellis, etc.

I do not know that I have ever heard of K&G do they have a website that I could find out more about them, their locations, and their products?

Bro. Robbins · #**103** 05-03-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I just really don't get this. Why wouldn't you want to be comfortable? Do you equate comfort with sin? I get the whole shirt and tie thing, and wanting to dress professionally, but you can do all of that and still be comfortable!

I keep going back to my original premise - based on the comments you make, it really seems that you are trying to punish yourself for something. You seem bent on self-flagellation, making yourself uncomfortable intentionally, I'm sorry, I just don't get it.

Nope, not punishment, just a totally different viewpoint than you. And that's okay. I don't believe we are put here to enjoy ourselves, be comfortable, have fun, etc. If those things get to be added on here and there, all well and good, but never, ever a high priority at all for me.

And it could be in how we define the word "comfortable". To me that means... feels good... and I suit and tie doesn't feel good to me... slacks and dress shoes do not feel good to me, but i understand that there are times that doing what is appropriate is much more important than comfort or feeling good.

The inference for me when I hear "comfortable" is no self control, whatever feels good, lack of professionalism, doing whatever I want, making my flesh feel good....etc. Giving control over to our senses and them making final decision.

This may not be what you mean when you say comfortable, so this could be a matter of not being on the same page.

Bro. Robbins · #**104** 05-03-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I do not know that I have ever heard of K&G do they have a website that I could find out more about them, their locations, and their products?

http://www.kgstores.com

rgcraig · #**105** 05-03-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Nope, not punishment, just a totally different viewpoint than you. And that's okay. I don't believe we are put here to enjoy ourselves, be comfortable, have fun, etc. If those things get to be added on here and there, all well and good, but never, ever a high priority at all for me.

And it could be in how we define the word "comfortable". To me that means... feels good... and I suit and tie doesn't feel good to me... slacks and dress shoes do not feel good to me, but i understand that there are times that doing what is appropriate is much more important than comfort or feeling good.

The inference for me when I hear "comfortable" is no self control, whatever feels good, lack of professionalism, doing whatever I want, making my flesh feel good....etc. Giving control over to our senses and them making final decision.

This may not be what you mean when you say comfortable, so this could be a matter of not being on the same page.

I think God feels differently about that!

RandyWayne · #**106** 05-03-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think God feels differently about that!

Yup. Who else but God Himself could have thought of the Hawaiian shirt?

Jay · #**107** 05-03-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Nope, not punishment, just a totally different viewpoint than you. And that's okay. I don't believe we are put here to enjoy ourselves, be comfortable, have fun, etc. If those things get to be added on here and there, all well and good, but never, ever a high priority at all for me.

And it could be in how we define the word "comfortable". To me that means... feels good... and I suit and tie doesn't feel good to me... slacks and dress shoes do not feel good to me, but i understand that there are times that doing what is appropriate is much more important than comfort or feeling good.

The inference for me when I hear "comfortable" is no self control, whatever feels good, lack of professionalism, doing whatever I want, making my flesh feel good....etc. Giving control over to our senses and them making final decision.

This may not be what you mean when you say comfortable, so this could be a matter of not being on the same page.

I agree with you in part, however, I am often comfortable being dressed up.

I think that you and I would have different meanings as to the word comfort or comfortable. Comfortable would be at ease* in a situation, which means that I am enjoying the clothes, the surrounding (as much as might be possible) and the conversation.

*at ease not being understood as laziness

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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

http://www.kgstores.com

Thanks for the link. Sadly it would be more of a luxury for me to drive the nearly 130 miles to the nearest store. I guess that leaves me stuck with MW or JCP unless I happen to have the money to buy a suit and be in the area at the right time. With the limited traveling I do, that is unlikely. However, maybe they will open a store here closer to where I am some day.

RandyWayne · #**108** 05-03-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think God feels differently about that!

And while this was perhaps one of the greatest days of my life, I was NOT comfortable in this suit at all. Gail had no issues though.

(Speaking of weddings, it is our 8th Anniversary today..... Can't hardly believe it!)

Bro. Robbins · #**109** 05-03-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I agree with you in part, however, I am often comfortable being dressed up.

I think that you and I would have different meanings as to the word comfort or comfortable. Comfortable would be at ease* in a situation, which means that I am enjoying the clothes, the surrounding (as much as might be possible) and the conversation.

*at ease not being understood as laziness

Thanks for the link. Sadly it would be more of a luxury for me to drive the nearly 130 miles to the nearest store. I guess that leaves me stuck with MW or JCP unless I happen to have the money to buy a suit and be in the area at the right time. With the limited traveling I do, that is unlikely. However, maybe they will open a store here closer to where I am some day.

You can order their stuff online brother and have altered there where you live. The prices are that good, sometimes there are even higher discounts for online ordering.

Bro. Robbins · #**110** 05-03-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think God feels differently about that!

Not trying to argue... I promise I'm not... but based on what Scripture? I've found in the Scriptures where he wants us to have Abundant life, Joy Unspeakable, Peace, be content.... but have never seen where the Word admonishes us to enjoy ourselves, be comfortable, or have fun.

If it's there... I'll gladly embrace it, but I've never seen that in the word....