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Old 06-11-2012, 02:08 AM
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

upload it to youtube

BTW LS lost credibility with me when he preached that a bunch of Russian miners had drilled too far into the middle of the earth and could hear the screams of the dead in hell.

What bothered me is he clearly thought we were all stupid enough that he could do that

What bothers me more is clearly some of us ARE that stupid

He lost all chances of cleaning up his credibility with the Hair debacle and that stuff about angels looking like us
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:56 AM
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

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upload it to youtube

BTW LS lost credibility with me when he preached that a bunch of Russian miners had drilled too far into the middle of the earth and could hear the screams of the dead in hell.

What bothered me is he clearly thought we were all stupid enough that he could do that

What bothers me more is clearly some of us ARE that stupid

He lost all chances of cleaning up his credibility with the Hair debacle and that stuff about angels looking like us
In LS's defense, he was far from the only one to use that story for dramatic effect. Prior to the internet allowing for checking of sources this story was very well spread and well used, outside Apostolic ranks as well.

MANY preachers tend to not check sources for validity when it comes to good inspirational stories. My guess would be that LS did this same thing with this Osama's wives story. Someone he knew and respected todl him it happened so he believed them and used the story in a sermon. Happens quite often with many a preacher across denominal lines.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:48 AM
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

Osama only had 3 wives from all accounts I've read....look...I get it....40 wives in a cave for 7 years coming out n getting converted is a wonderful inspirational story..but I don't wanna sit there and play "Ok....is this really legit?" Everytime I hear something like this....if someone is unsure of the source or validity of a story they need to preface the story with that.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:53 AM
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I don't believe most stories that preachers tell. ...because I found several on snopes.
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

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In LS's defense, he was far from the only one to use that story for dramatic effect. Prior to the internet allowing for checking of sources this story was very well spread and well used, outside Apostolic ranks as well.

MANY preachers tend to not check sources for validity when it comes to good inspirational stories. My guess would be that LS did this same thing with this Osama's wives story. Someone he knew and respected todl him it happened so he believed them and used the story in a sermon. Happens quite often with many a preacher across denominal lines.
Preachers should be men of integrity - this means checking out crazy stories before repeating them from the pulpit, or at least being man enough to say "I heard this, but I have not checked it out."
But of course that wouldn't cause as much excitement in the crowd.
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In LS's defense, he was far from the only one to use that story for dramatic effect. Prior to the internet allowing for checking of sources this story was very well spread and well used, outside Apostolic ranks as well.

MANY preachers tend to not check sources for validity when it comes to good inspirational stories. My guess would be that LS did this same thing with this Osama's wives story. Someone he knew and respected todl him it happened so he believed them and used the story in a sermon. Happens quite often with many a preacher across denominal lines.
Pretty weak defense. Where I come from we call a spade a spade.

How can any preacher expect people to take him seriously and believe what he says if he repeats wild stories as truth without any fact finding?

Conversely, how can people believe anything these preachers say if they are do such a poor job of fact finding? Apparently the threshold for credibility must be quite low in the UPC just as it is in some Charismatic circles.

The same UPC folks who will make fun of crazy stories about Charismatics seeing gold dust will believe wild stories from one of their own.

Your defense of LS is very close to the philosophy that says preachers don't have to tell the truth because they are "building faith" when they tell lies. Of course we know that biblically that is a bunch of hooey.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:18 AM
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

i still cant get over LS blaming the fault of a girl being raped on the girl... This man is loopy, Loco , crazy and so is his doctrines. listening to him is like wasting a hour of your life staring at a stonewall expecting something to happen to it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:33 AM
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

well, bin laden is dead now and can not produce.
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Now the files are getting converted, right along with all the wives. This story is getting bigger and bigger. Lol
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???

I think many religious leaders get themselves whipped up into a psychological fury wherein they loose all touch with reality and believe their notions are absolute truth. I don't see them as entirely evil men... they are in some ways... victims of the enemy. Self deluded.
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