So Sexy Isn't Offensive?

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by acerrak

yea how much leg did the men show when they girded up their tunics??

I dont have a issue with decent length shorts or tank tops. why is that considered immodest? There is a difference now if the shorts are so short that when they sit down there privates hang out.. yea immodest.

at a University graduation of a school of the reputation of the University of Chicago? are you kidding? dressing for an event like this in shorts and tank tops? Has nothing to do with modesty in the context of what I wrote... I was talking about too casual, and said that. They dressed for this very big deal event at this school like they were going to walmart.

This is an International school. Their commencements are very, very, very pomp and circumstance, very intricate, high level of excellence. Ive never seen anything so grand. The school costs around $50K a year to attend (my neice was there on full scholarship or couldn't have attended). It's a big deal to graduate from there.

And the foreigners were all dressed up and respected that. And us country folk did... and most folks did... but some people who should have known better were treating it way too casual in their appearance.....that's the point I was making.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Be Jesus.

I was....

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Again, you use sexy and attractive both as positive terms and interchangebly.... or it appears.

I do not.... attractive is a positive word.... sexy absolutely is not. To me, no lady ever wants to be considered Sexy except in private with her husband. She wants to be attractive always, but sexy is negative...

And no, not just how much skin is showing... Also sexy may be clothed, but form fitting...which is also a negative.

It not only appears that I am. I am. While I'm will to say that attractiveness and sexiness are not exactly the same I would add that I believe there is about an 80% overlap between the two. It also is not all about appearances but rather the combination between physical appearance (the genetic component), dress and style, and the biggie, personality. They all combine to determine how "sexy" someone is.

Now back to you Chris (since we've taken this discussion to different areas).

[Amanah]

I agree she is a treasure in the eyes of Christ, and as the body of Christ we should love her as Jesus loves her.

If a naked man/woman was drowning, their lack of clothing would not stop me from throwing them a life line.

I also think there is nothing wrong with reporting behavior that you feel is sexual harassment in the work place. Believe me; the work place has become more concerned with morality. People can be reprimanded for using foul language, for inappropriate behavior and attire, for telling jokes, touching; many things are now considered inappropriate that people might have gotten away with at one time.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

It not only appears that I am. I am. While I'm will to say that attractiveness and sexiness are not exactly the same I would add that I believe there is about an 80% overlap between the two. It also is not all about appearances but rather the combination between physical appearance (the genetic component), dress and style, and the biggie, personality. They all combine to determine how "sexy" someone is.

Now back to you Chris (since we've taken this discussion to different areas).

We will have to agree to disagree... whose Chris?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

To Acquilla - The only evidence of anything is that others believed because of her testimony... but no, the Scriptures don't say one way or the other that she believed or did not believe herself. You make assumptions..... but it's not in there one way or the other.

Bro... Christ said that they were ready to harvest. Was he wrong? Did he fail?

And for you to say that I'm not being Jesus to the gal on my floor is another assumption you make. You infer that to be Jesus would not to complain about her attire... and that would be me being slack in my responsibilities as management on this floor.... and I can't see that being very Jesus.

When did I say that? All I said is that we must remember to try to be Christlike in our response in those situations. Because the enemy likes for us to get all righteously indignant, mistreat someone in front of a group, and then alienate ourselves from them because of the way we spoke about a person or treated a person. They are left disagreeing with what a person might have worn or said.. but they are aghast at how we treated them in response. Then Satan laughs... and we're left sitting there saying things like, "But, but, but... she was inappropriate. She, she, should have known better. I mean, c'mon guys... don't ya feel me?" And they just stare thinking that while the person was inappropriate... we showed that we can be total jerks. I'm just saying we should be cautious and aware of Satan's set-ups. That's all.

I didn't go to the gal, and wasn't disrespectful. But I did stand up.... and there's nothing anti Jesus about standing up for the rules that we all agree to abide by at this employer.

I'm glad that you weren't disrespectful. And obviously you're a wistleblower when it comes to violations of the rules. Given the temperments of the people you work with that could be a good thing or a bad thing. I don't know. I'm just talking about situations like this in general. We should be wise. Sometimes it's best to just stand down and pray... see what happens... and find what your mission is with regards to the souls you work with. I mean... you are on assignment there. It's your mission field. If God has called you to enforce the dress code... do it. If God has called you to do otherwise... do it. That's all I'm saying.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I agree she is a treasure in the eyes of Christ, and as the body of Christ we should love her as Jesus loves her.

If a naked man/woman was drowning, their lack of clothing would not stop me from throwing them a life line.

I also think there is nothing wrong with reporting behavior that you feel is sexual harassment in the work place. Believe me; the work place has become more concerned with morality. People can be reprimanded for using foul language, for inappropriate behavior and attire, for telling jokes, touching; many things are now considered inappropriate that people might have gotten away with at one time.

Very true. But sometimes God isn't looking for a wistleblower. Sometimes He is. We have to be wise. I don't want a bunch of younger saints reading this becoming the "moral police" at work. Every situation is different, crafted by God, and should be approached with wisdom.

[Nitehawk013]

wow. This thread grew exponentially in my short absence.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I agree she is a treasure in the eyes of Christ, and as the body of Christ we should love her as Jesus loves her.

If a naked man/woman was drowning, their lack of clothing would not stop me from throwing them a life line.

I also think there is nothing wrong with reporting behavior that you feel is sexual harassment in the work place. Believe me; the work place has become more concerned with morality. People can be reprimanded for using foul language, for inappropriate behavior and attire, for telling jokes, touching; many things are now considered inappropriate that people might have gotten away with at one time.

It seems like we are always sending older kids home to change. OK, it doesn't happen that often but it does happen. It is amazing what parents allow their kids to wear. If I had a daughter (thank God I don't!) and she was as attractive as some of our Freshman, Juniors, and Seniors are I would force her to wear over sized hunting fatigues most of the time. LOL

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Very true. But sometimes God isn't looking for a wistleblower. Sometimes He is. We have to be wise. I don't want a bunch of younger saints reading this becoming the "moral police" at work. Every situation is different, crafted by God, and should be approached with wisdom.

For the younger saints reading this....."Follow the rules".... and if the rules say report, then report... report early and often. To whom much is given, much is required. Follow the rules, follow the rules... Yes, God's rules are supreme to work rules, but unless they violate the Word.... follow the rules, report those who don't, and do the right thing.

And by the way, this situation wasn't crated by God... he didn't put that girl in those hot pants.....