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07-10-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
sad...sad day when things like this happen...
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07-10-2012, 11:48 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Some thoughts(since I am a pastor and have known the pastor this is some observations maybe not thought of)
1. The former pastor was a demanded preacher and singer for which he recieved I would say a sizable income from his preaching out also he was an organizational official for year that probably(?) netted some income. Like mpst preachers of that era he probably dumped it all right back into the church. Pastor who teach the tithes belongs to the ministry(I believe that also) the majority pay most of the church bills and improvements and guest preachers out of the tithe. Years ago the tax professionals were telling us do NOT have two accounts. That has changed but I can see how a man 20 years or more to my senior might not comprehend the changes in the tax laws? Thus this unfortunate ordeal.
2. I wonder if the members thought of asking those prominent men who fellowshipped the church and pastor about coming in and trying to reconcile this situation? I know some of the men that were close to the pastor and church maybe their influence could help?
3. Some church in the area is getting ready to have revival.
4. I feel so sad for the saints who have been faithful.
5. I do NOT believe the church should be set up like a family business where the family decides who is going to be the pastor.
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07-10-2012, 11:49 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Also unless things changed in these later years the pastor lived a modest life and was a very humble loving man.
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07-10-2012, 12:15 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
So true Elder Epley...I too knew the pastor and his wife...they were awesome people. I am sad that this is happening if it is...wish we knew both sides of the story...However and whatever...we can pray....
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07-10-2012, 12:21 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Above all, it is imparative that each member KEEP their heart
and spirit right!
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07-10-2012, 12:28 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Above all, it is imparative that each member KEEP their heart
and spirit right!
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Yes!
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07-10-2012, 12:57 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Some thoughts(since I am a pastor and have known the pastor this is some observations maybe not thought of)
1. The former pastor was a demanded preacher and singer for which he recieved I would say a sizable income from his preaching out also he was an organizational official for year that probably(?) netted some income. Like mpst preachers of that era he probably dumped it all right back into the church. Pastor who teach the tithes belongs to the ministry(I believe that also) the majority pay most of the church bills and improvements and guest preachers out of the tithe. Years ago the tax professionals were telling us do NOT have two accounts. That has changed but I can see how a man 20 years or more to my senior might not comprehend the changes in the tax laws? Thus this unfortunate ordeal.
2. I wonder if the members thought of asking those prominent men who fellowshipped the church and pastor about coming in and trying to reconcile this situation? I know some of the men that were close to the pastor and church maybe their influence could help?
3. Some church in the area is getting ready to have revival.
4. I feel so sad for the saints who have been faithful.
5. I do NOT believe the church should be set up like a family business where the family decides who is going to be the pastor.
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1. The tax law allows for no excuse. However, that is why he let his daughter be office manager? She should have known what the tax laws are and informed him.
2. Didn't Mr. Steinway post that none of them wanted to get involved?
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4. They certainly did not deserve this, which is why the leadership should be seeking God in this matter.
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07-10-2012, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Some thoughts(since I am a pastor and have known the pastor this is some observations maybe not thought of)
1. The former pastor was a demanded preacher and singer for which he recieved I would say a sizable income from his preaching out also he was an organizational official for year that probably(?) netted some income. Like mpst preachers of that era he probably dumped it all right back into the church. Pastor who teach the tithes belongs to the ministry(I believe that also) the majority pay most of the church bills and improvements and guest preachers out of the tithe. Years ago the tax professionals were telling us do NOT have two accounts. That has changed but I can see how a man 20 years or more to my senior might not comprehend the changes in the tax laws? Thus this unfortunate ordeal.
2. I wonder if the members thought of asking those prominent men who fellowshipped the church and pastor about coming in and trying to reconcile this situation? I know some of the men that were close to the pastor and church maybe their influence could help?
3. Some church in the area is getting ready to have revival.
4. I feel so sad for the saints who have been faithful.
5. I do NOT believe the church should be set up like a family business where the family decides who is going to be the pastor.
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Bro. E,
I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I agree with your post!!
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07-10-2012, 01:16 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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God called Noah to build an ark to the saving of his OWN
house. HE saved Noah's familiy, and started over!
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Look what happened after the ark. Son saw is father nakedness. Besides, it was not a serious statement. Noah would be more a type of Christ then a model for a family runned church(business)
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07-10-2012, 01:47 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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One fact - the vote for pastor was for the daughter's choice.
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