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07-11-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Another example that shows one man ministry is a broken system.
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07-11-2012, 04:38 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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07-11-2012, 04:46 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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We were so destroyed and tired out from all this and the lawsuits and everything that I would go to bed and literally shiver and shake for a half an hour after getting a letter from the attorneys or any other shake-up. My husband was waking up in the mornings unable to hear and then his hearing would return after a while awake. We left the church and my husband got cancer. We were done fighting. We left the UPC altogether. My opinion was that they said "Give us Barabbas" so we gave them Barabbas. Perhaps, had we been stronger, we could have done more. We were just utterly destroyed. This was a long time ago and I am just now having the guts to really speak about it. When it was going on, I alluded to things on forums but I always figured it was not for forum fodder because I believed that ultimately things would work out. Later, I did not really delve into it on forums because I was so tired and scared that these people would come after us and beat us some more. We had people who drove by our house and beeped the horn for weeks on end at 3:00 in the morning and people smashed out the headlights and taillights on my husband's truck. We could never prove who it was, of course. But we had to leave to save our own lives. It took me years to recover from post traumatic stress disorder and even today my nervous system is pretty delicate.
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My heart hurts for you and your husband. Glad you are better in spite of abusive people.
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07-11-2012, 04:54 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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Judgement begins at the house of God. Unfortunately, a lot of innocent people get hurt when peoples motives are not God's motives.
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07-11-2012, 05:05 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by my kids mom
My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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God's church is made up of imperfect people, who sometimes fail. But God will not fail us. I'm so sad that your parents and others are suffering through this fiery trial. Remember though that the church is not a building, and the body of Christ is larger then a local assembly. Wait on the Lord and see where he will lead and how he will guide and protect his children. God bless you dear Sister, and bless your parents and this church in Jesus name.
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07-11-2012, 05:06 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by my kids mom
My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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I am reminded of when the early believers were prescuted they were force to split up and it caused the church to mulitiply.
God can still use this for His Glory.
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
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07-11-2012, 06:31 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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I am reminded of when the early believers were prescuted they were force to split up and it caused the church to mulitiply.
God can still use this for His Glory.
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Amen. Believing and praying with all my heart that this sad situation will resolve in a way that will bring those involved in this situation to a greater and deeper knowledge of Jesus.
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07-11-2012, 06:47 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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My heart hurts for you and your husband. Glad you are better in spite of abusive people.
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Thanks. Time does heal.
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07-11-2012, 06:49 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by my kids mom
My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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Sorry you are going through this. It certainly doesn't sound right. Hard to say if anything can or will be done.
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07-11-2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by my kids mom
My parents are and have been members of this church for over 30 years. Myself, my brothers and sisters also grew up in this church. It was once a. Mighty church, with strong leadership and a true passion for Christ. My parents stayed there while their shepherd was fading with age and recollection of who he even was, much less that he had sheep. They loved their first family and supported them with tithes, offerings, love and respect. Now that they are standing up for what is right, and trying to protect the church they. helped build,they are being kicked out. As far as what is right and what is wrong, its Gods final judgement, but I will tell you when a man leaves his wife because he is in a relationship with the pastors daughter and then wants to become pastor, there is a problem. What this church needs is someone who will stand up against this evil and bring this church back together.
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Wow! I don't know who you are, but my thoughts and prayers are with your family. It is truly sad to see what was once a great church come down to this type of thing. It's tragic, actually!
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