The Psycopathology of Evil Children

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

YOUR KUNG FU, IS VERY GOOD!

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by ILG

I suspect Rahab cleaned up. But her behavior was probably never the same as the daughter of an upright Israelite.

Ok, this I understand. Please don't think I mean to derail or belittle your thread. The subject of sex trafficking is VERY horrible and makes me sad to think of it.

I just thought Rahab was not the best metaphor. But yes, her behavior probably was not the same as other jewish women. And I know this from experience. I have a good friend of mine who dabbled into various sin, including pornography. She serves God now but I can't really say she's the perfect lady like our pastor's wife, she is more laid back so to speak.

I guess your question was whether children brought into sinful situations or show very wicked tendencies at a young age can still make it to heaven?

I have to give this some thought and get back to this thread.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

I suspect Rahab cleaned up. But her behavior was probably never the same as the daughter of an upright Israelite.

Originally Posted by ILG

That's not what I am saying.

Then by all means please clarify.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

Ok, this I understand. Please don't think I mean to derail or belittle your thread. The subject of sex trafficking is VERY horrible and makes me sad to think of it.

I just thought Rahab was not the best metaphor. But yes, her behavior probably was not the same as other jewish women. And I know this from experience. I have a good friend of mine who dabbled into various sin, including pornography. She is God now but I can't really say she's the perfect lady like our pastor's wife, she is more laid back so to speak.

I guess your question was whether children brought into sinful situations or show very wicked tendencies at a young age can still make it to heaven?

I have to give this some thought and get back to this thread.

I know some people who were at "Rick James" level when they were in the world, and to be around them you would NEVER even think it.

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I know some people who were at "Rick James" level when they were in the world, and to be around them you would NEVER even think it.

True, nothing is impossible for the Lord.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

True, nothing is impossible for the Lord.

Praise Jesus for His power!

[Baron1710]

People who are damaged like this young lady was, are not responsible for their actions, they have no real choice. It is great when a psychologist or therapist can help them heal, and restore them to a place where they can once again make real choices.

The only thing worse than the damage done those who abuse is those who force them to live in a broken state by simply giving them a religion but no real help. Like those who have a broken leg and all that is done is praying for them but no medical help given.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

People who are damaged like this young lady was, are not responsible for their actions, they have no real choice. It is great when a psychologist or therapist can help them heal, and restore them to a place where they can once again make real choices.

People who had horrible experiences, and childhoods are not responsible for their actions? Are you currently working as a public defendant?

Could you explain your theory further?

Does God intervene to convert, when a person is willing to allow God into their lives?

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The only thing worse than the damage done those who abuse is those who force them to live in a broken state by simply giving them a religion but no real help.

I agree with you here, just giving someone religion without any real physical or supernatural help is just a band-aid on a bullet wound.

Restoration takes time and work with everyone involved.

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Like those who have a broken leg and all that is done is praying for them but no medical help given.

I understand what you mean, but I was a witness of the accident of church sister's son, when he flipped his Stingray bicycle broke his arm, and she quietly knelt by his side, silently prayed, and the boy's arm was healed.

While I believe that individuals have the "faith" to allow God to perform the impossible, I also understand that Jesus Himself (God in the flesh) asked people to leave the room, and while visiting His home town could not perform many miracles. Taking that all into consideration one needs to know what they are dealing with, in order to see the impossible change before their eyes.

People have a free will and not only need our prayers but need our positive actions. In order to change their minds towards rehabilitation, and restoration.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

People who had horrible experiences, and childhoods are not responsible for their actions? Are you currently working as a public defendant?

Could you explain your theory further?

Does God intervene to convert, when a person is willing to allow God into their lives?

Absent a real choice one is simply acting as an animal would. They little girl in the video didn't have just a horrible experience she was repeatedly raped at one year old. That kind of damage is so severe that real freedom is not available to them to make choices. She had no emotion, no feelings of right and wrong, the working definition of legal insanity. She cannot conform her actions to what she ought.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I understand what you mean, but I was a witness of the accident of church sister's son, when he flipped his Stingray bicycle broke his arm, and she quietly knelt by his side, silently prayed, and the boy's arm was healed.

While I believe that individuals have the "faith" to allow God to perform the impossible, I also understand that Jesus Himself (God in the flesh) asked people to leave the room, and while visiting His home town could not perform many miracles. Taking that all into consideration one needs to know what they are dealing with, in order to see the impossible change before their eyes.

People have a free will and not only need our prayers but need our positive actions. In order to change their minds towards rehabilitation, and restoration.

The reality we live in is that God does not usually, if ever, heal broken bones outside of medical attention. The psyche is just as much in need of medical help in a situation like this, we are not talking about a cut or a bruise, we are talking about injuries so severe she cannot function in society.

Maybe the arm was broke, maybe it wasn't I was not there but the truth is many times people blame God and/or give give him credit for things He has never done.

[llambert]

Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

Ok, this I understand. Please don't think I mean to derail or belittle your thread. The subject of sex trafficking is VERY horrible and makes me sad to think of it.

I just thought Rahab was not the best metaphor. But yes, her behavior probably was not the same as other jewish women. And I know this from experience. I have a good friend of mine who dabbled into various sin, including pornography. She serves God now but I can't really say she's the perfect lady like our pastor's wife, she is more laid back so to speak.

I guess your question was whether children brought into sinful situations or show very wicked tendencies at a young age can still make it to heaven?

I have to give this some thought and get back to this thread.

Children who have behaved in depraved ways CAN change. In some ways, it is easier for them to repent than adults who have become set in their ways.

The scripture says that we all need to come to Him as little children- a lot of people in their 30s, 40s and beyond are very full of themselves and/or think they have sinned, no use to pray or that they are the chief of sinners or what have you. While it is true that there are psychopathic and sociopathic children, I wouldn't say that they can't experience deep repentance.

The other scripture that comes to mind is where sin abounds, grace abounds so much more.