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Old 08-16-2012, 02:22 PM
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This is where God knows what people have endured... and people have no idea what has happened to their fellow man/woman (in the past) when they walk through the church doors. Many assume that most people come from loving homes, when in fact they would be horrified to hear about what kind of conditions they had to endure when they were children. Most churchgoers do not even want to hear about it because, as some say, they cannot do anything about it so why listen to it?

I've asked this same question before in another thread. What do Preachers and congregants in general do when they encounter people who have endured mental/emotional/physical abuse? I like baron's answer the best.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:26 PM
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Re: The Psycopathology of Evil Children

Mr. Wood would tell you that these children are born of marriages
that were not sanctified in God's eyes:
http://www.biblenews1.com/define/sovereignty.htm
has a bit of "Right Man, Right Woman,"
and you can search this phrase in the site,
on the home page, for more. I found it compelling.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:32 PM
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Mr. Wood would tell you that these children are born of marriages
that were not sanctified in God's eyes:
http://www.biblenews1.com/define/sovereignty.htm
has a bit of "Right Man, Right Woman,"
and you can search this phrase in the site,
on the home page, for more. I found it compelling.
Ya, I've heard the argument that "bad children" is God's punishment on parents for <fill in the name of a sin> sin.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:50 PM
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Absent a real choice one is simply acting as an animal would. They little girl in the video didn't have just a horrible experience she was repeatedly raped at one year old. That kind of damage is so severe that real freedom is not available to them to make choices. She had no emotion, no feelings of right and wrong, the working definition of legal insanity. She cannot conform her actions to what she ought.
I'll be the first one to admit that the Jesuit maxim: "give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man" (Ignatius of Loyola, 1557), is true. John Broadus Watson, and B. F. Skinner proved that like animals, humans could be trained, and re-trained if influenced at early stages of life development. Send a young man to the Marines and he comes back different then he went in, also the same is true for a young man who goes to prison, while the end result is different, a mind change whether good or bad is the end result. So, your thoughts above have merit,yet do you believe that a true supernatural experience with the Holy Ghost can change someone's life who have been so severely damaged?

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The reality we live in is that God does not usually, if ever, heal broken bones outside of medical attention. The psyche is just as much in need of medical help in a situation like this, we are not talking about a cut or a bruise, we are talking about injuries so severe she cannot function in society.
I understand, but my question points more towards can an individual be restored through the power of the Holy Ghost?


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Maybe the arm was broke, maybe it wasn't I was not there but the truth is many times people blame God and/or give give him credit for things He has never done.
Maybe two planes crashed into two buildings and three fell down?

Maybe Lee Harvey Oswald, shot and killed a president with the worst Italian rifle ever made, while sitting sideways on a window sill?

A lot of people believe that God never does anything.

That's the bigger problem, then whether or not a woman could pray for her son in the middle of the street and he be miraculously healed.

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God can heal but people have a tendency to pick at other people's scabs.
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Maybe two planes crashed into two buildings and three fell down?

Maybe Lee Harvey Oswald, shot and killed a president with the worst Italian rifle ever made, while sitting sideways on a window sill?

A lot of people believe that God never does anything.

That's the bigger problem, then whether or not a woman could pray for her son in the middle of the street and he be miraculously healed.


Interesting...tell me more.
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People who had horrible experiences, and childhoods are not responsible for their actions? Are you currently working as a public defendant?
Sure glad God is not a Public Defendant, or, that God isn't you. Evang.Benincasa, go ahead, cast the first stone.

Were you ever molested as a child, or beaten by your drunken father and mother?
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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Ya, I've heard the argument that "bad children" is God's punishment on parents for <fill in the name of a sin> sin.
Well, I take that as a partial explanation, for when it may apply, in certain situations. Wood does allow that there is no reason these people cannot be saved, etc. I was born under this curse; it is profoundly evident, just by watching my parents torture each other.

But I certainly allow that this is not a complete explanation;
although I would tend to look for a spiritual reason
before a temporal one.
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Sure glad God is not a Public Defendant,
Thank you for pointing out the typo.


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or, that God isn't you.
Then does that mean He's...you?

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Evang.Benincasa, go ahead, cast the first stone.
Baron didn't seem to take it that way, we seem to be off to a good discussion?

Yet thank for your positive input, and correction of typo.

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Were you ever molested as a child, or beaten by your drunken father and mother?
You really felt my post deserved this response?

Interesting.

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Well, I take that as a partial explanation, for when it may apply, in certain situations. Wood does allow that there is no reason these people cannot be saved, etc. I was born under this curse; it is profoundly evident, just by watching my parents torture each other.

But I certainly allow that this is not a complete explanation;
although I would tend to look for a spiritual reason
before a temporal one.
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