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08-21-2012, 04:01 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
1. Is there anywhere in the Bible where someone was commanded to speak in tongues?
2. Is there a verse in the Bible that attaches eternal destiny to speaking in tongues?
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1. Jude verses 20 and 21 encourage us to keep ourselves in the love of God and to look for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ by building ourselves up (edifying ourselves) by praying in the Spirit. Praying in the Spirit and edifying one's self is praying with tongues according to my understanding of 1 Corinthians 12. Ephesians 6:18 encourages us to pray in the Spirit i.e. pray in tongues or in our prayer language.
2. In my opinion, no
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08-21-2012, 05:22 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Originally Posted by KWSS1976
When tongues were first introduced at Pentecost the onlookers understood what was being said. I have never been in a church service and understood what someone said when they were speaking in tongues...In the bible it clearly gives instructions in Corith on how to use tongues. I have a hard time finding scripture for the tongues I hear in church today cause 1. it's not the tongues at Pentecost or the onlookers would understand what was being said 2. It's not a prayer language cause I am hearing it and that goes against the Corith teaching...
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Pentecost is the only time it was recorded that tongues were understood
Corinth does not say you can't pray in tongues.
Paul says he prays "in the spirit", the context shows he was speaking of tongues
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the mind; I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the mind.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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08-21-2012, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Charnock,
You've come a long way since first posting.
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08-21-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
Bingo, imo.
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
LOL! This such a ridiculous argument. Can you imagine Paul saying - Act 19:2 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost."
Now WAIT, it ACTUALLY happened this way, "He said unto them, Have ye received glossololia or xenoglossia since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any glossololia or xenoglossia."
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Amen to that. Tongues is not the Holy Spirit.
We are clearly informed by Paul that tongues will cease, while the Holy Spirit will not. Your babbling is singing to satan, imo, and strictly a sideshow, and has no relation to the xenoglossia of Scripture.
Please witness the fruit of tongues today for me; dissension is all I find in it. It is strictly an arguing point among believers. Peace to you.
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08-21-2012, 07:42 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
Since that may be a bit harsh-
-as many truths seem to be-
-let me say something that perhaps we can both agree on:
If you allow the Spirit to be your guide here,
and not some Apo/Pent who sees fit to add
on to the end of Acts 2:38, you will surely be guided correctly.
Pardon me if I was rude.
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08-21-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
Bingo, imo.
Amen to that. Tongues is not the Holy Spirit.
We are clearly informed by Paul that tongues will cease, while the Holy Spirit will not. Your babbling is singing to satan, imo, and strictly a sideshow, and has no relation to the xenoglossia of Scripture.
Please witness the fruit of tongues today for me; dissension is all I find in it. It is strictly an arguing point among believers. Peace to you.
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PO sings to Satan? O.o
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08-21-2012, 08:34 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Bingo, imo.
Amen to that. Tongues is not the Holy Spirit.
We are clearly informed by Paul that tongues will cease, while the Holy Spirit will not. Your babbling is singing to satan, imo, and strictly a sideshow, and has no relation to the xenoglossia of Scripture.
Please witness the fruit of tongues today for me; dissension is all I find in it. It is strictly an arguing point among believers. Peace to you.
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Evidence of having received.
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08-21-2012, 08:35 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Originally Posted by houston
PO sings to Satan? O.o
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I wrote a song to you, diablo? 
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08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Originally Posted by houston
PO sings to Satan? O.o
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We all sing to satan, in our own ways.
We are much more comfortable with his ideas than God's.
One is known by their fruit, and we are in a fourth generation.
Last edited by bbyrd009; 08-21-2012 at 09:00 PM.
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08-21-2012, 08:57 PM
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Re: Commanded to Speak in Tongues?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Evidence of having received.
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Lacking that in the text, it is you who have added this, onto the end of a beautiful Scripture that is not revealing tongues. Anyone who seeks may find here, and may the Spirit be your guide. Dissect the relevant verses on a Bible engine; you could spend 4 hours on a verse now. Or, witness the fruit 
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