Tattoos

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Oh ok. Thanks for the clarification. In regards to demons expressing themselves through the outward appearance...do you believe that a person can actually change facial appearance and vocal expressions when they manifest?

I've never seen anything like that...nor would I want to...but I've read about it.

And yes, this guy definitely seems to have issues by tatooing the "cut here" on his throat....almost like a death wish wouldn't you say?

I've seen it. Can't say I ever want to see it again, but it happens. People have reported human beings almost completely morphing into what looks like animal form. I remember hearing a sermon where the preacher said he went to a home of a demonically possessed woman and her face almost looked cat-like with cat eyes and everything. I haven't seen anything that extreme, however I have seen people's skin tone change color, and demonically possessed individuals doing weird unhuman movements like being able to bend their body completely in half and making animal noises.

Self-mutilation is definitely biblical. Most biblical accounts of demonic possession record self-mutilation as a sign of possession. Remember the boy in Mark 9 who kept trying to kill himself in scripture? That's why I said I'm not sure if it's a "death wish" or a "death sentence". It could mean the man wants to die, or a demon wants everyone to know that he's planning on taking that man out. Either way, it's not good.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

You see...I've already learned all of this while recovering from depression several years past. Had to learn it the hard way, and it's been a long time since I've been depressed. I have other physical issues now due to the pharmacopeia that was prescribed to me. Which is why I now am an advocate for natural remedies unless somebody is in crisis.

Yup...a bit more about depression,
which will prolly be about as popular as "self-inflicted,"
but sort of verifies this.
There might be more than one cause,
but the Spirit can guide one in any of them; I think for a believer
any chronic depression is usually/often a sign of avoidance
of their next lesson. The Holy Spirit can verify this, just ask;
but again, don't flinch at the answer;
or don't be surprised that you are depressed.

It can be easy to flinch at a vision that seems
undoable, too foreign to ones MO; and so no step
is taken, when even just little steps in that particular
direction will produce overcoming.

I've noticed that the progression seems to be
Asking the Spirit,
Getting a vision,
Becoming afraid, usually of some
minor or even imaginary aspect of the change required,
and then Overcoming...or not.

Also, it is of course easy to spend years,
even a lifetime, "neglecting" to ask the Spirit
why one might be depressed, preferring, of course,
to supply some temporal answer for oneself.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

Self-mutilation is definitely biblical. Most biblical accounts of demonic possession record self-mutilation as a sign of possession. Remember the boy in Mark 9 who kept trying to kill himself in scripture? That's why I said I'm not sure if it's a "death wish" or a "death sentence". It could mean the man wants to die, or a demon wants everyone to know that he's planning on taking that man out. Either way, it's not good.

Surely most often self-esteem issues;
literally, more comfortable with death/possession
due to lack of affirmations offered to one when they were needed.
Ref "Cutter Christians."
(note strange overtones of
self-immolation in the meaning of "Megiddo,"
http://concordances.org/hebrew/4023b.htm
at "gadad," the root).