Friends church droppped "standards" - Page 3

aegsm76 · #21 09-24-2012, 12:57 PM

Almost all churches have "standards".

Jay · #22 09-24-2012, 01:12 PM

Everyone has standards. When I go to work, I am expected to have a certain uniform, when I enter certain restaurants they want me to be wearing footwear and a shirt, and some still require socks. If every one else can expect higher standards than what we normally have, why complain about the higher standards of the church?

houston · #23 09-24-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Everyone has standards. When I go to work, I am expected to have a certain uniform, when I enter certain restaurants they want me to be wearing footwear and a shirt, and some still require socks. If every one else can expect higher standards than what we normally have, why complain about the higher standards of the church?

Oh, the MACDONALD'S-HAS-UNIFORMS-SO-THE-CHURCH-SHOULD-TOO argument.

Michael Phelps · #24 09-24-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Everyone has standards. When I go to work, I am expected to have a certain uniform, when I enter certain restaurants they want me to be wearing footwear and a shirt, and some still require socks. If every one else can expect higher standards than what we normally have, why complain about the higher standards of the church?

Apples and oranges, Jay.

McDonald's doesn't tell you that you'll go to hell for not wearing the uniform.

AreYouReady? · #25 09-24-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

Everyone has standards. When I go to work, I am expected to have a certain uniform, when I enter certain restaurants they want me to be wearing footwear and a shirt, and some still require socks. If every one else can expect higher standards than what we normally have, why complain about the higher standards of the church?

Jay I think some of the problem is that you choose to work at a certain place that requires uniforms. They pay you to work for them in the uniform of their choice. If you do not want to wear the uniform, then you don't get to work there.

A restaurant has the option of not serving you if you go in without certain clothing. This came about because they were losing revenue because other customers find it offensive to look at feet while they eat. Let's face it...most feet are not attractive.

However, a church is an assembly of people who regularly meet in a building that is paid for by the people by pooling their money together in whatever form the Pastor (president) wants to call it...whether it is the 'tithe' or the 'offering' or whatever. The people are neither getting paid to attend, nor are they paying to be spiritually fed so this cannot be compared to being at work or at a restaurant. To give to a local assembly should not be a 'tithing' commandment...but more like a NT freewill giving as the Lord has prospered you type of giving. For a local assembly to attach a 'uniform' code, then treat another person like an alien from outer space because they do not adhere to someone else imposing a higher standard is more like a dictatorship rather than a freewill, loving congregation to fellowship with.

I'm not talking about some wanting to be outrageously flamboyant in dress and makeup either. That is another matter.

tv1a · #26 09-24-2012, 01:42 PM

Your point would amost be worth considering if you it were not for 1 major fact. You don't see McDonalds employees wearing their uniform everwhere. You would think something is wrong with a person wearing their uniform every where.

It's not scriptural to use your opinions as a basis to judge someone's salvation.

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Originally Posted by Jay

Everyone has standards. When I go to work, I am expected to have a certain uniform, when I enter certain restaurants they want me to be wearing footwear and a shirt, and some still require socks. If every one else can expect higher standards than what we normally have, why complain about the higher standards of the church?

AreYouReady? · #27 09-24-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Apples and oranges, Jay.

McDonald's doesn't tell you that you'll go to hell for not wearing the uniform.

Right. They just will not hire you. Pentecostals who want to work there cannot because the females will not wear a pant's uniform.

I'm thinking specifically about the case where the woman sued McDonalds because she would not wear pants.

However, isn't it the same concept in reverse in some churches if a woman will not wear a dress? Can you sue a church for discrimination in treatment if a female gets reprimanded by the pastor if she comes to church in slack suits, trims her hair and wears makeup and jewelry? Wouldn't it be true that if one can sue a corporation for discrimination, then one can sue a church because they become incorporated when they apply for and obtain a 501 c 3 tax-exempt status?

Not that it would be the Christian thing to sue a church for that unless they caused gross defamation of your character to where your children even suffer for that defamation.