Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

I never said ANYTHING about putting him back in as pastor, just don't like people slamming him all over this site.

First of all, there's only a single thread. It isn't "all over this site." Secondly, most of the posts on this thread have been pretty gentle. We don't even have enough facts to comment too far, anyway. SOME of the posts are about TB specifically, and most have turned into a more generic discussion since we don't have all the facts.

AMEN to this! But until you have lived it yourself, you can't judge someone else's actions.

Lived what? You mean I have to have committed adultery to judge that it's wrong?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Lucy Loo, you need to learn how to use quotes in a post.

Make sure the beginning of a quote starts with "[ quote ]" (WITHOUT the spaces and quotation marks) and ends with "[/ quote ].'

The word "quote" inside the brackets starts a quote and "/quote" inside brackets ends a quote. That way when people requote you, they aren't getting other people's statements mixed up with yours.

This is particularly important if you split up quotes and reply to them like you did mine.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tex

bishop terry black was and still is a great man! he is only human and any man can fall. no one really knows what went wrong and why that it did. i pray bro black and his family will continue on with the gospel and be accepted once again. he is an awesome preacher! the devil will devour like a roaring lion and will destroy who he can. we love you terry black !!! he should be forgiven.

Nobody...NOT ONE PERSON, said the man should not receive forgiveness. ROFL

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ttpaba

I'd like to interject a reason why I think people get upset when they are the member of a congregation and it's discovered that there has been some serious immorality or err in judgement (any sin will do).
I think it's because we put our trust in pastors & leadership. We are aware they are human but in the same way you don't expect your spouse to have an affair, your child to be racist or your best friend to be a gossip but to a greater degree because they claim to have the congregation's best interest at heart. They claim to love us and pray for us. They counsel us and give us guidance. We look to them as an example of true Christianity but a level up since they have been called to lead!

Our home is having an ongoing conversation, here's the question we are batting around. Since pastors are human but held to a higher standard, at what level of sin are they to stay in the pulpit and handle the sin personally with God? When is the line crossed to be handled by a board, panel or other proper overseers? What line does a pastor have to cross to be "put out" of the pulpit or have a petition brought to the congregation?

I believe it's similiar but not as close to a woman experiencing it first hand...her husband cheating or maybe more like being the children and finding out your Dad was cheating. It's a different situation but still someone you were trusting and looking up to

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Actually, bible teaches that a person is a drunkard, fornicator etc.... if they will not repent the church is to not eat with them or fellowship.

Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

And who are YOU to say how long they have to repent???? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, YOU don't get to say how long that is.

Lucy Truthseeker did not say one word about how long someone needs to repent. Rather he was paraphrasing scriptures

Lucy why do you keep reading things into what others post that are not there?

[houston]

So many straw men. Are we hosting auditions for AFF's The Wizard of Oz?

[Michael The Disciple]

Ok just make this general and not specific to the "Bishop" in this thread. A Bishop who has been in continued adultery can be forgiven and go on leading the Flock?

On the other hand A Pastor has been faithful to Christ yet had two women he trusted for marriage backslide, desert, and fornicate. He marries again on this basis and has been with the third faithful women for 16 years.

So is the first "Bishop" elgible for ministry but the second is not?

[AreYouReady?]

MTD, you and I are wondering the same thing.

I started another thread for discussion hoping to have some clarity on the subject.

[ttpaba]

@ Michael the Disciple
From what I can see in the scriptures neither are eligible for the position of Bishop.
That's not to say they can't do a work for God! So many men get so hung up on being THE leader/Pastor that they forget there are so many things that need doing between the pews and the pulpit.
I in no way am saying you are this way.
It's just been my experience that we have Bible Studies to teach, children to create creative learning experiences for, buildings to maintain, grass to mow, buses that need repair, new converts to teach, programs to assist with, sick to visit and widows to tend to. Elders need help, single parents need help! But so many just want to stand in the pulpit.
There is a rush that men get in front of an audience/congregation similar to that of singers, performers and such. Some seek that adrenaline, the favor of man and accolades.
I don't believe for a minute that TB is this way. Whatever happened with him has led to the course of actions that TPC is dealing with and his loved ones are now suffering for. I pray for all affected. I pray he continues on living for God and finds his place for the future doing whatever God would have him do in a place of peace.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok just make this general and not specific to the "Bishop" in this thread. A Bishop who has been in continued adultery can be forgiven and go on leading the Flock?

On the other hand A Pastor has been faithful to Christ yet had two women he trusted for marriage backslide, desert, and fornicate. He marries again on this basis and has been with the third faithful women for 16 years.

So is the first "Bishop" elgible for ministry but the second is not?

I do not see scriptures where Christ holds that against a man or a woman.