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10-09-2012, 03:14 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
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Money
A lot has been said about the ministry...some good...some bad...concerning money...jobs and on and on...I do not have the time to express what I would like to say however I have been a missionary for over 44 years and have been on the receiving side from America and giving side to the people here.
I think situations differ...needs varry...however if it were not for the kindness of the American people giving many times we would have went hungry...and I am not lazy. In fact we keep office hours and go to church somewhere almost every night. In the meantime when things were tight I have taught English classes to help and other things.
Many things just boil down to LIVING RIGHT AND COMMON SENSE. Most of us can say we know what is it to be blessed and to suffer...they seem to go hand and hand.
If we are faithful with little He trusts us with much...however some people relax and LEARN HOW to get the job done...and a life without prayer becomes an open door to the devil.
I known people who are awesome preachers but they do not pray...
People tend to become relaxed in what they know best...and often DIE doing what they can do the best! I know missionaries that have got caught up with life and forgot what was really first...
I have no problem paying my tithes or even receiving tithes HOWEVER one thing I always tell our people...GOD SEES WHERE HIS PEOPLE'S MONEY GO...IF I AM UNWISE HE SEES THAT TOO...
I admire my friend Sherri Cupples and she might not want me to say this but I will...They no doubt could live far above the way they live however they chose NOT to take all the tithes...and take a modest salary. They work day and night both in the USA and abroad. Giving...giving and giving....
It does not bother me in the least if a pastor takes all the tithes however HE will give an account to GOD...and believe me God keeps good records and He knows HOW we spend our money....
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Monies to help us may be sent to P.O. Box 797, Jonesville, La 71343.
If it is for one of our direct needs please mark it on the check.
Facebook Janice LaVaun Taylor Alvear
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10-09-2012, 03:27 PM
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Repent and believe the Gospel!
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Jacksonville FL
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Re: Money
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
It does not bother me in the least if a pastor takes all the tithes however HE will give an account to GOD...and believe me God keeps good records and He knows HOW we spend our money....
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Sister Alvear I like that! We cheerfully tithe and not unto the Pastor but unto the Lord, with the understanding that Pastor is not responsible to me but unto the Lord and we don't answer unto the Pastor for our tithe but unto God.
Mike
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
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10-09-2012, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Money
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
A lot has been said about the ministry...some good...some bad...concerning money...jobs and on and on...I do not have the time to express what I would like to say however I have been a missionary for over 44 years and have been on the receiving side from America and giving side to the people here.
I think situations differ...needs varry...however if it were not for the kindness of the American people giving many times we would have went hungry...and I am not lazy. In fact we keep office hours and go to church somewhere almost every night. In the meantime when things were tight I have taught English classes to help and other things.
Many things just boil down to LIVING RIGHT AND COMMON SENSE. Most of us can say we know what is it to be blessed and to suffer...they seem to go hand and hand.
If we are faithful with little He trusts us with much...however some people relax and LEARN HOW to get the job done...and a life without prayer becomes an open door to the devil.
I known people who are awesome preachers but they do not pray...
People tend to become relaxed in what they know best...and often DIE doing what they can do the best! I know missionaries that have got caught up with life and forgot what was really first...
I have no problem paying my tithes or even receiving tithes HOWEVER one thing I always tell our people...GOD SEES WHERE HIS PEOPLE'S MONEY GO...IF I AM UNWISE HE SEES THAT TOO...
I admire my friend Sherri Cupples and she might not want me to say this but I will...They no doubt could live far above the way they live however they chose NOT to take all the tithes...and take a modest salary. They work day and night both in the USA and abroad. Giving...giving and giving....
It does not bother me in the least if a pastor takes all the tithes however HE will give an account to GOD...and believe me God keeps good records and He knows HOW we spend our money....
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So do you believe he will go to hell for misusing God's money... or still go to heaven?
BTW Sis... exactly how can I support you?
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10-09-2012, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Money
Nevermind... I see it in your sig. line.
The link does not work however.
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10-09-2012, 03:39 PM
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Apostolic Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United States
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Re: Money
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998
Sister Alvear I like that! We cheerfully tithe and not unto the Pastor but unto the Lord, with the understanding that Pastor is not responsible to me but unto the Lord and we don't answer unto the Pastor for our tithe but unto God.
Mike
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I second this wholeheartedly.
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10-09-2012, 04:22 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 11,467
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Re: Money
I like money. We all like money. But money can never be first.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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10-09-2012, 04:26 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
Posts: 27,042
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Re: Money
I believe God is the judge however if we misuse HIS money that seems very serious to me...I would not want to misuse His money....
I always think of the little ladies that give from fixed incomes...It would be horribly wrong for me to misuse the money they send me for missions...
My address for support is:
South American Foreign Missions
PO Box 797
Jonesville, La. 71343
We keep records of all monies sent and send out yearly receipts...
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Monies to help us may be sent to P.O. Box 797, Jonesville, La 71343.
If it is for one of our direct needs please mark it on the check.
Facebook Janice LaVaun Taylor Alvear
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10-09-2012, 04:27 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
Posts: 27,042
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Re: Money
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Originally Posted by ILG
I like money. We all like money. But money can never be first.
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Money is a good servant but a poor master...
__________________
Monies to help us may be sent to P.O. Box 797, Jonesville, La 71343.
If it is for one of our direct needs please mark it on the check.
Facebook Janice LaVaun Taylor Alvear
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10-09-2012, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,485
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Re: Money
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I believe God is the judge however if we misuse HIS money that seems very serious to me...I would not want to misuse His money....
I always think of the little ladies that give from fixed incomes...It would be horribly wrong for me to misuse the money they send me for missions...
My address for support is:
South American Foreign Missions
PO Box 797
Jonesville, La. 71343
We keep records of all monies sent and send out yearly receipts...
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I wish more people's actions were affected by those thoughts of widows giving from their tiny fixed incomes. My husband's granny used to send money from her SS check to televangelists... She ate baloney and peanut butter a lot. It made me very sad but back then we were broke and raising five kids and couldn't do anything to help her.
I vowed a while back not to take a deduction for my contribution to God's Kingdom. If I get it back from the government it does not feel to me as if I really sacrificed anything to give it. And since all my needs are met and then some it is already hard for me to feel like I do any sacrificial giving... A personal problem I'm sure.
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10-09-2012, 09:10 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SOUTH ZION
Posts: 11,307
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
I wish more people's actions were affected by those thoughts of widows giving from their tiny fixed incomes. My husband's granny used to send money from her SS check to televangelists... She ate baloney and peanut butter a lot. It made me very sad but back then we were broke and raising five kids and couldn't do anything to help her.
I vowed a while back not to take a deduction for my contribution to God's Kingdom. If I get it back from the government it does not feel to me as if I really sacrificed anything to give it. And since all my needs are met and then some it is already hard for me to feel like I do any sacrificial giving... A personal problem I'm sure.
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But if you get it back you'll have more to give.
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