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11-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
Why do we have two threads? Title distortion conflict?
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11-02-2012, 03:05 PM
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Re: NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
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I just gave you information that they were.
I believe it.
Have you heard any audio?
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No, I just read another company head refute the claim. I know there is coordination that needs to be done because of safety issues. This is an election year, everything is speculation. I don't believe anything anyone says anymore.
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11-02-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...crews_tur.html
North Alabama utility crews reportedly turned away from New Jersey aid for being nonunion (updated)
North Alabama crews sent to aid in power restoration for Hurricane Sandy victims are being sent away from New Jersey work sites because they are not union employees, according to WAFF 48.
WAFF initially reported that Alabama crews, including those from Huntsville, Decatur and Trinity, were originally called in to help in Seaside Heights, N.J. but were forbidden to work upon arrival. Officials with Huntsville Utilities and the Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative say their crews did not have that problem.
However, Decatur Utilities have now confirmed that they were turned away because their workers were not unionized.
Nine Huntsville employees who left this week will instead be going to Long Island, N. Y. The crew from Joe Wheeler EMC in Trinity is already going home.
Click here to read WAFF's full story with video.
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Did you even watch and listen to the video?
He said the information that caused them to bring their men home was not a union or non union issue. The letter they received that caused this issue was not from NJ, or from a union but came from their own state rep.
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11-02-2012, 03:18 PM
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Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
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Did you even watch and listen to the video?
He said the information that caused them to bring their men home was not a union or non union issue. The letter they received that caused this issue was not from NJ, or from a union but came from their own state rep.
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Right. He is saying that it is not a union v. non-union issue, but an issue of logistics.
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11-02-2012, 03:46 PM
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Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
Three different crews were mentioned.
Decatur Utilities confirms the story here, in part.
The part about the union was true.
They were not turned away, as that area no longer needed help.
However, they are headed home because of the union requirements.
Light, get your story straight the first time.
link
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...rt_flyout_news
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11-02-2012, 03:54 PM
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Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
Here is the press release:
"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights.
"In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."
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11-02-2012, 03:58 PM
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Re: NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
As stated in the other thread, here is the press release:
"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights.
"In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."
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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...rt_flyout_news
Light, there were THREE utilities mentioned in the story, two are working, Decatur is returning home.
Get your facts straight.
And PO it says a lot about you that you are now following after what lite says.
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11-02-2012, 04:09 PM
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11-02-2012, 04:12 PM
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Re: NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
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As stated in the other thread, here is the press release:
"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights.
"In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."
Link
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...rt_flyout_news
Light, there were THREE utilities mentioned in the story, two are working, Decatur is returning home.
Get your facts straight.
And PO it says a lot about you that you are now following after what lite says.
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Look, I read some information and posted it when Light posted his. It simply was that Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities, said they were not turned away and that there were no union related issues.
Then we have a link with a video included by, Lacey ( http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/s...sandy-recovery), where the Decatur General Utilities Manager responds by saying that it is not a union v. non-union issue, but an issue of logistics.
So, what we have are conflicting stories. I'm not going to the bank with conflicting stories. What I do have is a video with a REAL person being filmed not agreeing that it is a union issue.
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11-02-2012, 04:48 PM
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Re: NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
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I'm sure he meant NJ.
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