Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

My sentiments exactly until I noticed he was talking about me

I was being nice.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by H Gang

Why is it so important to define everybody? Should we focus on Jesus rather than the apostles? Did the original apostles seek to be like each other or like Jesus?

Jesus chose his disciples. One day Peter questioned Jesus about the fact that they had left all to follow him. What would they get! Jesus replied that they who had followed him, in the regeneration, when the Son of man, would sit in the throne of his glory, they would also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt. 19:28 After Jesus' resurrection he appeared to his disciples and would teach them. Read Luke 24:44-53. (Luke wrote Acts also). Those who followed Jesus before his ascension, would suffer much persecution. Those who followed Jesus, would later suffer much persecution. But in the end they would reign with him. He told them what to teach and preach. This is known as THE APOSTLES DOCTRINE or Teaching. Why shouldn't it be important. It was JESUS' Teaching that HE PUT INTO His chosen Apostles. They were to pass it on. That same teaching came to our family in 1933, from an old white-haired preacher who came to my paternal grandmother and her son (my late father). It was searched out in scripture, BELIEVED (faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of GOD), OBEYED and RECEIVED and has/is being passed on to the 6th generation. OH, How I thank GOD for the message of Apostolic salvation. The Blessings have been, and continue to be, that which money cannot buy! What a treasure it is. TOO many today have been short-changed concerning this Wonderful message. The Message in Acts 2. Perhaps it has been HIDDEN from the so-called wise and prudant, but REVEALED to babes. (Those who came to HIM as a little child).

Falla39

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by falla39

jesus chose his disciples. One day peter questioned jesus about the fact that they had left all to follow him. What would they get! Jesus replied that they who had followed him, in the regeneration, when the son of man, would sit in the throne of his glory, they would also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of israel. Matt. 19:28 after jesus' resurrection he appeared to his disciples and would teach them. Read luke 24:44-53. (luke wrote acts also). Those who followed jesus before his ascension, would suffer much persecution. Those who followed jesus, would later suffer much persecution. But in the end they would reign with him. He told them what to teach and preach. This is known as the apostles doctrine or teaching. Why shouldn't it be important. It was jesus' teaching that he put into his chosen apostles. They were to pass it on. That same teaching came to our family in 1933, from an old white-haired preacher who came to my paternal grandmother and her son (my late father). It was searched out in scripture, believed (faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of god), obeyed and received and has/is being passed on to the 6th generation. Oh, how i thank god for the message of apostolic salvation. The blessings have been, and continue to be, that which money cannot buy! What a treasure it is. Too many today have been short-changed concerning this wonderful message. The message in acts 2. Perhaps it has been hidden from the so-called wise and prudant, but revealed to babes. (those who came to him as a little child).

Falla39

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[webe123]

To those from the Memphis church asking about Bro. Ron Brown, I have known the man for over 20 years. He used to pastor a church in the town where I lived for a few years before going into the position he has now. The pastor I had over me knew him and considered him a very good friend. He is a man of honor and integrity.

He is also no "newbie" by any stretch of the imagination! So the folks that are still going to the Memphis church can be assured that he is a good man and he has had experience in pastoring a large church.

To all those Memphis church folks, I will say that I am deeply saddened by all of this. But know that the hearts and prayers of people on this board are with you.

I hope you can find peace weather you decide to stay or go.

It may help you at the Memphis church to also know that the church I now attend had our pastor have to step down about the exact same time that Bro. Black stepped down, but our pastor had to resign for health reasons as he was getting weaker and not getting any better. So believe me...I KNOW how you must feel. I am probably one of the few on this board that can actually share your pain...even though both our pastors stepped down under different circumstances, it still hurts to know they are gone.

I felt kind of punched in the gut when our pastor announced he was resigning for health reasons. I came to find out that they threatened to put him in the hospital not two weeks before he finally made his decision because he was so weak, but he begged the doctors to just get him strong enough to stay out of the hospital so that he could take care of some things.....seems he was thinking about us...the church... because I know for a fact he never would have wanted us to be without a pastor unless it had come to to this.

His dad which used to be my pastor years ago has taken over temporarily, but the poor man is 70 years old and had a couple of toes removed because he is a diabetic. So he cannot stand in one place for a long time or simply stand still without it hurting him. He is simply not the man he was 20 years ago, so our church is also searching for a new pastor.

We will be in prayer for the Memphis church.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by webe123

to those from the memphis church asking about bro. Ron brown, i have known the man for over 20 years. He used to pastor a church in the town where i lived for a few years before going into the position he has now. The pastor i had over me knew him and considered him a very good friend. He is a man of honor and integrity.

He is also no "newbie" by any stretch of the imagination! So the folks that are still going to the memphis church can be assured that he is a good man.

To all those folks, i will say that i am deeply saddened by all of this. But know that the hearts and prayers of people on this board are with you.

I hope you can find peace weather you decide to stay or go.

It may help you at the memphis church to also know that the church i now attend had our pastor have to step down about the exact same time that bro. Black stepped down, but our pastor had to resign for health reasons as he was getting weaker and not getting any better. So believe me...i know how you must feel. I am probably one of the few on this board that can actually share your pain...even though both our pastors stepped down under different circumstances, it still hurts to know they are gone.

I felt kind of punched in the gut when our pastor announced he was resigning for health reasons. I came to find out that they threatened to put him in the hospital not two weeks before he finally made his decision because he was so weak, but he begged the doctors to just get him strong enough to stay out of the hospital so that he could take care of some things.....seems he was thinking about us...the church... Because i know for a fact he never would have wanted us to be without a pastor unless it had come to to this.

His dad which used to be my pastor years ago has taken over temporarily, but the poor man is 70 years old and had had a couple of toes removed because he is a diabetic. So he cannot stand in one place for a long time or simply stand still without it hurting him. He is simply not the man he was 20 years ago, so our church is also searching for a new pastor.

We will be in prayer for the memphis church.

Great report!!!! May God use this man to bring healing, restoration, unity to his people, and restored integrity of the tpc ministry-in Jesus name amen!!!

[webe123]

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

Great report!!!! May God use this man to bring healing, restoration, unity to his people, and restored integrity of the tpc ministry-in Jesus name amen!!!

AMEN! These people have had a lot of pain thrown at them. I hope they can have some joy in their lives as well.

After all, I DO understand what they are going through in wondering what kind of a new pastor they will have as we at our church have had the same questions.

But I have made up my mind that as far as me personally...I am going to LEAVE MY MIND blank when it comes to a new pastor.

I am NOT going to fill my mind with what I think he should be.

Because I think that decision should be left up to GOD.... and HE will make sure when the right man comes through the door, that he let's the church know..."this IS the pastor you have been waiting for".

The bible says "Who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?" Well I sure don't!

Therefore, I have made up my mind that whoever GOD puts in...I am going to be completely satisfied and happy with that choice.

After all, I TRUST GOD to make that choice...a whole lot more than I trust myself or man to make that choice. But the people of God must do thier part also, they have to be sure and pray and seek the face of God for wwho God wants in the church.

My Former pastor said this years ago and now that he is temporarily in that position again, he said it a couple of sundays ago...

He said..."If a church has a pastor that steps down for whatever reason and they are searching for a new one...but yet do NOT take the time to pray, fast and seek the face of God...then if that church get's a "hireling" instead of a real pastor....that they SHOULD NOT BLAME GOD ON THAT ONE!

Because the point he was making was that yes, there are some things only God can do for us....but...there are other things he also expects us to do for ourselves. God will hear our prayers, but he will not pray for us....just the same as a teacher can help tutor you in how you handle a problem, but when test time comes, they cannot take the test for you, you have to do that for yourself.

I think the old saying "God helps those that help themselves" is very true in cases like this. Even though that is not a scripture in the bible...this is...

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Sometimes we wait on God......and he is waiting on US!

[tv1a]

Mark 16:28-31 goes into more detail than Matthew 19:28.

Mark 10:28-31

28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.

29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,

30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first. KJV

Originally Posted by Falla39

Jesus chose his disciples. One day Peter questioned Jesus about the fact that they had left all to follow him. What would they get! Jesus replied that they who had followed him, in the regeneration, when the Son of man, would sit in the throne of his glory, they would also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt. 19:28 After Jesus' resurrection he appeared to his disciples and would teach them. Read Luke 24:44-53. (Luke wrote Acts also). Those who followed Jesus before his ascension, would suffer much persecution. Those who followed Jesus, would later suffer much persecution. But in the end they would reign with him. He told them what to teach and preach. This is known as THE APOSTLES DOCTRINE or Teaching. Why shouldn't it be important. It was JESUS' Teaching that HE PUT INTO His chosen Apostles. They were to pass it on. That same teaching came to our family in 1933, from an old white-haired preacher who came to my paternal grandmother and her son (my late father). It was searched out in scripture, BELIEVED (faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of GOD), OBEYED and RECEIVED and has/is being passed on to the 6th generation. OH, How I thank GOD for the message of Apostolic salvation. The Blessings have been, and continue to be, that which money cannot buy! What a treasure it is. TOO many today have been short-changed concerning this Wonderful message. The Message in Acts 2. Perhaps it has been HIDDEN from the so-called wise and prudant, but REVEALED to babes. (Those who came to HIM as a little child).

Falla39

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Jesus chose his disciples. One day Peter questioned Jesus about the fact that they had left all to follow him. What would they get! Jesus replied that they who had followed him, in the regeneration, when the Son of man, would sit in the throne of his glory, they would also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt. 19:28 After Jesus' resurrection he appeared to his disciples and would teach them. Read Luke 24:44-53. (Luke wrote Acts also). Those who followed Jesus before his ascension, would suffer much persecution. Those who followed Jesus, would later suffer much persecution. But in the end they would reign with him. He told them what to teach and preach. This is known as THE APOSTLES DOCTRINE or Teaching. Why shouldn't it be important. It was JESUS' Teaching that HE PUT INTO His chosen Apostles. They were to pass it on. That same teaching came to our family in 1933, from an old white-haired preacher who came to my paternal grandmother and her son (my late father). It was searched out in scripture, BELIEVED (faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of GOD), OBEYED and RECEIVED and has/is being passed on to the 6th generation. OH, How I thank GOD for the message of Apostolic salvation. The Blessings have been, and continue to be, that which money cannot buy! What a treasure it is. TOO many today have been short-changed concerning this Wonderful message. The Message in Acts 2. Perhaps it has been HIDDEN from the so-called wise and prudant, but REVEALED to babes. (Those who came to HIM as a little child).

Falla39

"The Message in Acts 2" was Peter preaching Christ unto them. Read the whole chapter not just verse 38. And read the whole book of Acts, not just chapter 2. There are 19 accounts of conversions recorded in Acts. Five of those conversions include the "formula" (I don't believe salvation is a formula but I know the jargon) of Acts 2:38. Yet in 100% of the accounts repentance/faith/belief is always present. If Acts 2:38, the way you interpret it, was the apostles doctrine, why doesn't Paul communicate it that way to the Philippian jailor in Acts 16? Why isn't it communicated that way in all 19 recorded cases of conversions? Why don't the apostles who wrote the epistles mention it as Peter stated it ONCE in any of their letters to the early church? Why do we find repentance/faith/belief communicate ALL OVER the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, but a few bits and pieces of scripture to make the case for a OP doctrine of salvation?

Trying to rightly divide the Word is not being "wise and prudent" in the sense Jesus used that phraseology. He used that language referring to Pharisees who were blind to WHO HE WAS. You know the Pharisees who were strict, conservative and disciplined---more consecrated than everyone else, judging everyone else, more holy than everyone else. They missed the truth of Christ because they ere so focused on how right they were, how special they were and how many generations back they went of being right, while the rest of the world was wrong.

I don't believe for a second that the apostles were consumed with their identity being each other. They were possessed with "Christ and Him crucified." Jesus was the center of their teaching and preaching, not some "formula".

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by webe123

To those from the Memphis church asking about Bro. Ron Brown, I have known the man for over 20 years. He used to pastor a church in the town where I lived for a few years before going into the position he has now. The pastor I had over me knew him and considered him a very good friend. He is a man of honor and integrity.

He is also no "newbie" by any stretch of the imagination! So the folks that are still going to the Memphis church can be assured that he is a good man and he has had experience in pastoring a large church.

To all those Memphis church folks, I will say that I am deeply saddened by all of this. But know that the hearts and prayers of people on this board are with you.

I hope you can find peace weather you decide to stay or go.

It may help you at the Memphis church to also know that the church I now attend had our pastor have to step down about the exact same time that Bro. Black stepped down, but our pastor had to resign for health reasons as he was getting weaker and not getting any better. So believe me...I KNOW how you must feel. I am probably one of the few on this board that can actually share your pain...even though both our pastors stepped down under different circumstances, it still hurts to know they are gone.

I felt kind of punched in the gut when our pastor announced he was resigning for health reasons. I came to find out that they threatened to put him in the hospital not two weeks before he finally made his decision because he was so weak, but he begged the doctors to just get him strong enough to stay out of the hospital so that he could take care of some things.....seems he was thinking about us...the church... because I know for a fact he never would have wanted us to be without a pastor unless it had come to to this.

His dad which used to be my pastor years ago has taken over temporarily, but the poor man is 70 years old and had a couple of toes removed because he is a diabetic. So he cannot stand in one place for a long time or simply stand still without it hurting him. He is simply not the man he was 20 years ago, so our church is also searching for a new pastor.

We will be in prayer for the Memphis church.

Are you in Jackson, TN?

[webe123]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Are you in Jackson, TN?

Yes I am, I live in Jackson, but my church isn't.

I go to a church in Medina TN.

But years ago I did attend a church on the Northside of Jackson pastored by Tom Clark.

I went there for 20 years.

That church closed a while ago.