There should have been no SH case. That's the thing.
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You don't think others might have done the same if they'd been in the same position? Just asking.
I don't know but I do know that I expect any President, whether Democrat or Republican to tell the truth under oath and once it is conclusively proven they have lied they should resign.
It is a terrible indictment of the morality of the Democrat party that not one single elder statesman came forward to privately or publicy tell Clinton to resign. If he had and Al Gore had become President assuming the economy was still humming and Al Gore had not revealed what a total idiot he is then the Dems would have won the Presidency in 2000.
When Nixon screwed up the Republican party did not circle the wagons for the party's sake. They went to Nixon and told him he had to resign. All that and he was not even involved in the planning of Watgergate, only the coverup.
I don't know but I do know that I expect any President, whether Democrat or Republican to tell the truth under oath and once it is conclusively proven they have lied they should resign.
It is a terrible indictment of the morality of the Democrat party that not one single elder statesman came forward to privately or publicy tell Clinton to resign. If he had and Al Gore had become President assuming the economy was still humming and Al Gore had not revealed what a total idiot he is then the Dems would have won the Presidency in 2000.
When Nixon screwed up the Republican party did not circle the wagons for the party's sake. They went to Nixon and told him he had to resign. All that and he was not even involved in the planning of Watgergate, only the coverup.
Good points CC, but the fact is ..... Nixon lied too. And who knows but what there was sexual impropriety along the way as well.
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Good points CC, but the fact is ..... Nixon lied too. And who knows but what there was sexual impropriety along the way as well.
I agree. Nixon lied and Republican elders told him he must resign or be impeached.
Dem's should have done the same.
As far as your earlier post that said the women Clinton sexually harressed should not have pressed charges against him I am amazed that you say that.
He exposed himself to one of the women and she clearly identified parts of him in detail that she could have only known if it were true.
Are you confusing the Monica Lewinsky thing? There were no charges invovled there and I can understand you saying it should have been kept secret EXCEPT that it showed a pattern of beahviour in the other sexual harressment cases he was facing. One more reason it was so wrong for him to lie. He was not just lying to "protect his family". He was lying to avoid being convicted in a sexual harressment case.
As CC1 stated, GWB is not a good public speaker. At least not in the mold of RR and BC who were both master communicators.
However, he is the first president with an MBA. you cant be dumb and do that. GWB is no idiot as some in the media and all in the democrat party.
I think the history books will show that faced with increadable odds, GWB has done well. he inherited a pathetic economy and before he could even get his sea legs, 9/11 happened. GWB has handled the economy very well. unemployment is at an historical low. Tax revinue is at a record high and more importantly we have not had another terrorist attack on American soil. while it has not gotten much notice, according to some, there have been as many as 20 major attacks that have been thwarted without much fanfare.
Afghanistan has quietly been moderately successful. Iran however is another story. We have taken care of Saddam, his sons, and the leader of Al Queda in Iraq Zarqwi. however, there have been set backs and we are now at a point politically where it may be impossible to bring this to a postive end.
the major reasons for that are GWBs on fault. First, for what ever reason, the he refused to articulate early and often what it was going to cost and how long it would likely take. He has said it in the past, that it could be ten years, but it has not been a repeated refrain.
Second, until this last offensive, we have worked with failed vietnam policy. we entered an area infested with insurgents, killed them then we left, only to have to return later. This failed in Korea and Vietnam. It failed in Iraq too. this has devistated American resolve and led to the near collapse of American will to win. It reamains to be seen if the current leadership can turn the corner.
Lastly GWB for some reason has failed completely on the subject of immigration. I suspect his goal is to build good will to the hispanic commuinity and bring them into the republican party. What ever the reason, he has failed utterly on the subject.
I think in fifty years, GWB will be seen as an average president. certainly not as great as Ronald Reagan and the 2 Roosevelts. but no where near as bad as the likes of Herbert Hoover, Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter.
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I was sexually harassed when I worked in an office as a young woman full of men and three other older women. I thought that that was just the "way it was". That was back at a time before the term "sexual harassment' was even coined.
I'm going to bow out of this at this point because I don't hold some of the same opinions others do in regard to some of this so it's best I just hush up.
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I have read the entire autobiography of Bill Clinton and as a result I have a much greater appreciation for Clinton than I once had. What he did on so many levels was quite amazing actually, with a balanced budget being the crowning achievement of his administration.
I do agree with most of what you have to say here. BTW, I am an American, not a Canadian! What you say about the negative press is true and is one reason why that even when someone like Clinton is doing a good job as far as governing is concerned, the nature of politics and the press is to focus entirely on anything negative. That is what sells news.
I don't think Bush is stupid, I just think he lacked the background knowledge and experience in world politics to make wise decisions regarding foreign policy and therefore had to lean far too heavily on others and has been misquided by them.
He also has a loyalty to those around him that has in some cases been a misplaced loyalty that hurt him. One such case was his loyalty to Rumsfield. Had he cut him loose one week earlier the Democrats wouldn't have won control of both houses of Congress.
This statement bothers me. it bothers me because GWB was able to get Tony Blair to join in Iraq. Blair being a labor guy at that. It bothers me because this view is so common based on France and Germany not agreeing to join in the actions in Iraq. France in particular needed Saddam to stay in power to hid the insanity of Frances involvenment in Iraq, and they took the oppurtunity to attempt to become the new world power. Germany fell in with france. I disagree completley with this assessment.
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Brett, you must remember that Reagan was an actor who played his role well. It just so happened that he had the right convictions needed for that time at home and on the world stage.
I agree that Clinton did much to undermine the respect that much of the world once had for US leaders and has contributed to some of the difficulties Bush has encountered following him into that office.
However, I think you would agree that Bush has made his own contribution to the level of disrespect that other nations now have for the presidency and the USA as a nation.
wow. how can we see things in almost the opposite terms?
Ronald Reagan was a very successful governor of California. He also was on the political scene in the 60's calling for Social Security reform that had he been listened to, social security would be a cornerstone of wealth in America. Ronald Regan was much more than an actor that played a good roll. he was a brilliant politician who erased the worst recession in a generation (since the g reat depression) and won the cold war. He did that by his own vision. he didnt 'just happen to have" the right convictions for the time.
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