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Old 12-08-2012, 03:14 AM
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Right to work law?

Can someone explain what I am missing? It seems this law would make it so Unions can't require dues....

If that is the case Im a little confused by the reactions. Union workers are protesting because they want to be forced to pay union dues? Why not just volunteer to give the dues freely?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ts-from-union/
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:24 AM
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Re: Right to work law?

no, union leadership knows if they cant be forced they wont do it,its not the people, its the 10 vice pres.'s making 150 thousand each like in my union.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:50 AM
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Re: Right to work law?

It is a source of money for the pockets of the union leaders to support their lifestyle. It's also a source of money to promote and support the candidates who work with them (and for them).
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:31 PM
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no, union leadership knows if they cant be forced they wont do it,its not the people, its the 10 vice pres.'s making 150 thousand each like in my union.
But it is the people who are protesting.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:48 PM
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But it is the people who are protesting.
Unions understand how to herd people like cows for their "causes". It doesn't surprise me at all.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:28 PM
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But it is the people who are protesting.
stockholme effect !
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:43 PM
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Re: Right to work law?

They are probably protesting because if a plant/factory has right-to-work employees, this will indeed water down any effect the union may have in forcing employers to honor contracts. They can hire people who will not join the union. If the union strikes for bigger pay and benefits, the 'scabs' will come in and keep the plant going.

Mississippi is a right to work state. It only means that when a person gets hired on in a plant that is unionized, they have a right to work without being compelled to join the union or pay dues to a union. And they cannot be fired for not joining a union either.

In the past, anybody who started work in a place that had a union, they were required to join and pay dues to the union. If for any reason they failed to pay their dues, they were fired.

In other words, the employee has the right to work, regardless of whether or not he is a member or financial contributor to such a union.

There were several unionized factories in north mississippi that just up and moved out saying that they can operate more efficiently and save money elsewhere.

In this day of globalization, I am afraid that unions may no longer be effective because they are able to have "free trade" by moving off shore and bring their goods back to the USA for commerce.

I have never been a union member or felt the need to join a union. I agree to work for a certain wage when I am hired in and I am free to find another job if the pay is not compatible with the work requirements.
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We sing God Bless America with tears in our eyes for the righteousness we feel doing so. God simply cannot comply with our false humility in the wake of such abject evil in our midst. We say “In God We Trust” and print it on our money yet God is no where in sight. He has moved out of the way so that we can pursue our lunacy and perversion.

We can not even choose a viable government let alone understand the depths to which our shallow lives have fallen. The hammer is about to fall on the incredibly foolish American nation. We have sealed our fate and elected to go hand in hand with the destroyer of worlds down the road to utter devastation. That is a gross understatement and will be fully realized in the short weeks and months to come.......................
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Arizona is a right to work state!!
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They are probably protesting because if a plant/factory has right-to-work employees, this will indeed water down any effect the union may have in forcing employers to honor contracts. They can hire people who will not join the union. If the union strikes for bigger pay and benefits, the 'scabs' will come in and keep the plant going.

Mississippi is a right to work state. It only means that when a person gets hired on in a plant that is unionized, they have a right to work without being compelled to join the union or pay dues to a union. And they cannot be fired for not joining a union either.

In the past, anybody who started work in a place that had a union, they were required to join and pay dues to the union. If for any reason they failed to pay their dues, they were fired.

In other words, the employee has the right to work, regardless of whether or not he is a member or financial contributor to such a union.

There were several unionized factories in north mississippi that just up and moved out saying that they can operate more efficiently and save money elsewhere.

In this day of globalization, I am afraid that unions may no longer be effective because they are able to have "free trade" by moving off shore and bring their goods back to the USA for commerce.

I have never been a union member or felt the need to join a union. I agree to work for a certain wage when I am hired in and I am free to find another job if the pay is not compatible with the work requirements.
Maybe it's time Unions changed then to stay "afloat" and viable?

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