Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Insider

My heart bleeds for you and your family. The enemy will do his bidding. As I have gotten older and more experienced I have come to believe that it will truly be a miracle if any of us make it. We are all so fallible. The world around us is falling to pieces. Just look at America and the situation she finds herself in at this time. Corruption at all levels of our government. I actually heard today of a father that was selling his 17 year old daughter in prostitution to support his drug habit.

And that is just one example of the pure evil this world faces. We all must rise to the challenges that will soon befall us. The Bible tells us that in the last days will be perilous times. The enemy is truly licking his chops. Whether you are a Pastor or pauper the enemy cares not. But when he brings a Pastor down there is always collateral damage. Truly heartbreaking.

Amen!!! The main problem that I see with saved people is that our AFFECTIONS is oftentimes wading in the world, and we're slowly emulating them instead of leading them to emulate Chrust: we/many christians want to be saved, but straddle in the world, and its sinful appetites. We MUST keep our hearts and eyes upon the Lord jesus Christ who is able to keep ALL those that trust in Him...

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I thought Insider was writing to set the record straight without throwing out accusations or innuendo. He wrote of the hurt and devastation of some of the loyal saints who had been betrayed with forgiving heart toward TB and a desire to see TB do what is right, repent and find reconcilation with God. And if TB had humbled himself and repented, do you think this would be an issue? Wouldn't love have covered up the offense when repentance is offered?

tv1a, I'd prefer to talk about this type of thing without using names and places to learn from it. I'm sorry that this has happened. Good people are hurt as is God's reputation. But I'm glad Insider has given us a glimpse into the process of healing in his heart and hopefully in the heart of TPC. A better end to the story would have been if TB had repented and made restitution.

Another hearty amen!!!!!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Enough of the story so we can learn from it and see that it doesn't happen again.

Since this incident was made public at a church meeting, why do you call it gossip if people discuss it? (I haven't read this whole thread...only small sections of it.)

Like we all know about David's indiscretion...

[tv1a]

Airing out the drama on the internet doesn't facilitate healing. Something is wrong when people get a perverse pleasure from hurting people. You don't encourage healing by involving irrelevant people to particpate.

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

You know, people respond to circumstances in different ways sometimes; I'd just hate to be the person(s) who causes unrest and harm among God's sheep. God will rstore his sheep that's been wounded if they allow God to do it, and I pray that the leadership be restored as well....

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Airing out the drama on the internet doesn't facilitate healing. Something is wrong when people get a perverse pleasure from hurting people. You don't encourage healing by involving irrelevant people to particpate.

This site like most others are mostly for dialogue regardless of what peole might feel about it; it's up to each individual as to what they might get out of these websites. I would not believe that people are looking for healing {mostly dialogue and encouragement} on a website, or social media forum-healing comes from God, and biblically sound counsel from those persons that's qualified to do so. There's no sense of people complaining about these social forums; just make the decision as to whether you and I would like to give input; simply that...{PS}, I met a brother, and his family out of this deliemna at TPC, and we now have church fellowship and friendship together; so-all things can work for your good if people allow God to have His way, and believe me; this family has decided to keep on moving and serving God: so, this forum and its subject has/is working for someone's good; it's obvious that you cannot close people out from their freedom to speak, dialogue, etc-just pray my friend...

[Insider]

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

This site like most others are mostly for dialogue regardless of what peole might feel about it; it's up to each individual as to what they might get out of these websites. I would not believe that people are looking for healing {mostly dialogue and encouragement} on a website, or social media forum-healing comes from God, and biblically sound counsel from those persons that's qualified to do so. There's no sense of people complaining about these social forums; just make the decision as to whether you and I would like to give input; simply that...{PS}, I met a brother, and his family out of this deliemna at TPC, and we now have church fellowship and friendship together; so-all things can work for your good if people allow God to have His way, and believe me; this family has decided to keep on moving and serving God: so, this forum and its subject has/is working for someone's good; it's obvious that you cannot close people out from their freedom to speak, dialogue, etc-just pray my friend...

So glad you were able to encourage and help someone that was from TPC. Some people tend to see the just the bad in all things. I choose to see the good in all things.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Airing out the drama on the internet doesn't facilitate healing. Something is wrong when people get a perverse pleasure from hurting people. You don't encourage healing by involving irrelevant people to particpate.

I think you are wrong. But then I think that often! For a moment lets say that for once in your life you are right and this doesn't "facilitate healing". At the very least it is a warning to other pastors and saints to make sure their churches have proper accountability set up for finances and other critical areas and a pastor who some sort of accountability also.

Pastor's don't typically spend their entire ministries leading duplicitous lives (although I did just find out about one that did - first affair 3 months after he married as a young man out of Bible College). While they are still right with God they need to understand they, like all of us, are subject to failure and should WANT, yay I say even INSIST that accountability for them and the church finances be in place. Those are the pastors I pray read this thread and take action.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think you are wrong. But then I think that often! For a moment lets say that for once in your life you are right and this doesn't "facilitate healing". At the very least it is a warning to other pastors and saints to make sure their churches have proper accountability set up for finances and other critical areas and a pastor who some sort of accountability also.

Pastor's don't typically spend their entire ministries leading duplicitous lives (although I did just find out about one that did - first affair 3 months after he married as a young man out of Bible College). While they are still right with God they need to understand they, like all of us, are subject to failure and should WANT, yay I say even INSIST that accountability for them and the church finances be in place. Those are the pastors I pray read this thread and take action.

While any failure in the ministry is inexcusable and horribly affects so many and those who do so become infamous. I do want to remind everyone the great majority of preachers are faithful to their God-wives-churches. Most are givers instead of takers. They never get mentioned and don't expect it since it is their duty and privilege. Sometime when events like this take place it becomes easy to lump all into one batch. We preachers also suffer with the failures of saints we pastor that destroy their families and sometimes target the church itself.
CC1 is correct many times living a double life begins early but in time they are their own undoing. No one is smart enough to get by forever.

[Cindy]

There are 3 sides to this mess, TB's, others, and the truth.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

While any failure in the ministry is inexcusable and horribly affects so many and those who do so become infamous. I do want to remind everyone the great majority of preachers are faithful to their God-wives-churches. Most are givers instead of takers. They never get mentioned and don't expect it since it is their duty and privilege. Sometime when events like this take place it becomes easy to lump all into one batch. We preachers also suffer with the failures of saints we pastor that destroy their families and sometimes target the church itself.
CC1 is correct many times living a double life begins early but in time they are their own undoing. No one is smart enough to get by forever.

Amen