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Old 01-11-2013, 05:00 PM
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Re: Memphis Churches

If you look at a crime map, the areas with the most crime have the most 'churches'. Is there a correlation?
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If you look at a crime map, the areas with the most crime have the most 'churches'. Is there a correlation?
People plant churches in the areas that need them the most?
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So.....whats the point?
...already been made
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People plant churches in the areas that need them the most?
But are ineffective?
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But are ineffective?
At what? Winning souls or lowering crime?
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At what? Winning souls or lowering crime?
That would go hand in hand. Win soul, lower crime.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:16 PM
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That would go hand in hand. Win soul, lower crime.
There are hundreds of thousands of people in inner cities and crime plagued areas, I don't see how you get that winning a soul drops the crime rate significantly enough to notice.
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There are hundreds of thousands of people in inner cities and crime plagued areas, I don't see how you get that winning a soul drops the crime rate significantly enough to notice.
You're suggesting that the hundreds of churches are ineffective?
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I moved here from the north 12 years ago. Best decision of my life. We live in Bartlett, a VERY safe suburb. Only two murders in the 12 years I've lived here. The police pull you over for having a tail light out. Criminals stay far away from here. Good school system. City of Memphis has bad, dangerous areas for sure, what major city doesn't? I don't live in fear here. I go all over town without any weapons. I've preached in inner city churches, even in the old church where Bishop Mason the founder of the COGIC pastored. I've been to Beale Street many times, no problems. Its a great city, lots of culture, lots of great food and music, museums, sports, gardens, golf courses, people. More churches per capita than anywhere in the USA. 2/3 of the population claim church membership. Still lots of darkness and evil lurking destroying lives. Memphis needs Jesus. We're trying to bring Him to them along with a lot of other churches. Some great churches here: Bellevue Baptist, Hope Presbyterian, Life Church of Memphis, Temple of Deliverance COGIC, New Direction Christian Church, Bethel Church (the one I pastor), Love and Truth Cordova. And then there's Elvis...
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You're suggesting that the hundreds of churches are ineffective?
Uh...no. You are. You seem to rate "effectiveness" by the crime rate.
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