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01-23-2013, 12:02 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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He didn't do it as a fast but more as what we would call a standard.
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01-23-2013, 12:04 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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you may not be but I can point to many that simply do this fast and go right back to eating unhealthy and thinking God is blessing such ignorance. It's like eating unhealthy and knowing it and asking God to change his natural law so you can continue in destroying your body when sick from whatever. sry God does not reward a lawless heart and that includes eating bad.
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You're assuming that people go "right back to eating unhealthy." We actually do a good job of eating healthy and staying active in our house--but we are NOT vegetarians/vegans. Ergo, it IS a departure for us set aside meat, dairy and all sugars.
So IF someone normally eats healthy, but they do a vegan or vegetarian fast for 21 days, you see that is a completely worthless endeavor? I don't; and your points about people going back to an unhealthy lifestyle is actually a strawman that has no bearing on the validity of the Daniel Fast.
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01-23-2013, 12:07 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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He didn't do it as a fast but more as what we would call a standard.
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Actually, I thought that, too, (although that didn't cause me to question the validity of the fast) until I read the passage that bishoph posted from Daniel 10. Daniel actually DID fast for 21 days--and this is what he did:
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
3 weeks. Why would he specify three weeks of no pleasant bread, no meat and no wine if that was how he was already eating?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-23-2013, 12:11 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
"neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled"
Does this mean that one is not to bathe or wear deodorant during the fast...three weeks in this case?
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01-23-2013, 12:17 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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"neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled"
Does this mean that one is not to bathe or wear deodorant during the fast...three weeks in this case?
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In the NIV it says he didn't use "lotions", so it's possible that it means no perfumes or anything that smells good or feels pleasant. Considering the Jewish laws about cleanliness, I would highly doubt it means not to bathe. It's possible though, if the goal was to abase himself or to illustrate his sadness.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-23-2013, 12:23 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
Are we then, all in agreement that I (not being on Daniel fast) can drink a glass or two of wine?
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01-23-2013, 12:28 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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Are we then, all in agreement that I (not being on Daniel fast) can drink a glass or two of wine?
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Ask your wife. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-23-2013, 03:06 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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Ask your wife. |
 Really? You really want to destroy ALL the fun don't you!
LOL!
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-23-2013, 03:09 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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Are we then, all in agreement that I (not being on Daniel fast) can drink a glass or two of wine?
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Only to calm your stomach like Paul instructed Timothy 
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01-23-2013, 05:09 PM
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Re: Purpose of 'Daniel's Fast'...WHY?
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