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Cindy · #**421** 01-26-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

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houston · #**422** 01-26-2013, 11:53 AM

Some y'all need to smoke a blunt, eat some cookies, and SHUT UP!

Pressing-On · #**423** 01-26-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

Some y'all need to smoke a blunt, eat some cookies, and SHUT UP!

Sometimes you are absolutely a ridiculous person.

tv1a · #**424** 01-26-2013, 12:40 PM

If you read my earlier posts you would have read i didnt care for the person. I never met the person nor have i spoken with him. Discussing someone's sins is gossip. True or untrue, it doesn't fall within the parameters established in Philippians 4:8. Period.

I used the word appropriately. Take the rose colored glasses of religion off and see the mockery you made of Christ.

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Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Who is twisted? You're just mad cuz your friend got outted...his indiscretions publicly made known.

Accept it. It's NEWS not gossip.

And you did NOT use the word in context. You cussed. Period.

Ron · #**425** 01-26-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am responding to this late as I have been away and will be away again. But, I couldn't help notice that you overlooked Ron's point of view. He said, several times, that he is not saying that anything did not happen, but he was against speaking openly about it. He feels it is unbiblical to handle the information in this way. That is his view and he has a right to it. I do defend him on that point as we that all know him, know him to be a good and honest person. His fault here may be that he is too conservative to suit or he has that UPC persona overshadowing his remarks. (lol)

Aside from his point of view, I am sure you are familiar with the parable of the unmerciful or unforgiving servant? The story is found in Matthew 18:21-35.

I think a discussion has been on board here in regards to degrees of sin. I feel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes.

So, my point would be, in relation to the unmerciful/unforgiving servant - if any of us, including you and me, have ever sinned and been forgiven, how could we possibly and honestly go after, criticizing, another person's failure so openly and without abandon? It just seems hypocritical to me.

Thanks PO for your kind remarks, can I put your quote on a t-shirt?

"know him to be a good & honest person"-PO
Even though it sounds like a letter of reference for a job!

Too Conservative?? My Conservative friends think I am a tad liberal, my liberal friends think I am a tad Conservative???

Sweet Pea · #**426** 01-26-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am responding to this late as I have been away and will be away again. But, I couldn't help notice that you overlooked Ron's point of view. He said, several times, that he is not saying that anything did not happen, but he was against speaking openly about it. He feels it is unbiblical to handle the information in this way. That is his view and he has a right to it. I do defend him on that point as we that all know him, know him to be a good and honest person. His fault here may be that he is too conservative to suit or he has that UPC persona overshadowing his remarks. (lol)

Aside from his point of view, I am sure you are familiar with the parable of the unmerciful or unforgiving servant? The story is found in Matthew 18:21-35.

I think a discussion has been on board here in regards to degrees of sin. I feel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes.

So, my point would be, in relation to the unmerciful/unforgiving servant - if any of us, including you and me, have ever sinned and been forgiven, how could we possibly and honestly go after, criticizing, another person's failure so openly and without abandon? It just seems hypocritical to me.

tv1a · #**427** 01-26-2013, 02:31 PM

Have you noticed how some people are more offended at a proper use of the word hell than about gossiping about the demise of a fallen preacher?

When one decides not to follow Biblical concepts they are saying to hell with the Bible.

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Originally Posted by Ron

Thanks PO for your kind remarks, can I put your quote on a t-shirt?

"know him to be a good & honest person"-PO
Even though it sounds like a letter of reference for a job!

Too Conservative?? My Conservative friends think I am a tad liberal, my liberal friends think I am a tad Conservative???

rgcraig · #**428** 01-26-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am responding to this late as I have been away and will be away again. But, I couldn't help notice that you overlooked Ron's point of view. He said, several times, that he is not saying that anything did not happen, but he was against speaking openly about it. He feels it is unbiblical to handle the information in this way. That is his view and he has a right to it. I do defend him on that point as we that all know him, know him to be a good and honest person. His fault here may be that he is too conservative to suit or he has that UPC persona overshadowing his remarks. (lol)

Aside from his point of view, I am sure you are familiar with the parable of the unmerciful or unforgiving servant? The story is found in Matthew 18:21-35.

I think a discussion has been on board here in regards to degrees of sin. I feel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes.

So, my point would be, in relation to the unmerciful/unforgiving servant - if any of us, including you and me, have ever sinned and been forgiven, how could we possibly and honestly go after, criticizing, another person's failure so openly and without abandon? It just seems hypocritical to me.

I assure you that no one overlooked his point.

All that I meant was that I understand it's hard for him to know this since he has a past with TB. It has to hurt.

CC1 · #**429** 01-26-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am responding to this late as I have been away and will be away again. But, I couldn't help notice that you overlooked Ron's point of view.

Aside from his point of view, I am sure you are familiar with the parable of the unmerciful or unforgiving servant? The story is found in Matthew 18:21-35.

I think a discussion has been on board here in regards to degrees of sin. I feel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes.

So, my point would be, in relation to the unmerciful/unforgiving servant - if any of us, including you and me, have ever sinned and been forgiven, how could we possibly and honestly go after, criticizing, another person's failure so openly and without abandon? It just seems hypocritical to me.

PO, I think it would be impossible for anybody to overlook Ron's point of view as he proclaimed it adnauseum a bazillion times. (Only outdone by Mr.television one.)

Your second point "I feel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes" brings up some interesting ethical questions.

If what you say is true then should we remove a pastor who breaks the law by driving too fast and gets a speeding ticket? If the sin is the same in God's eyes as adultery shouldn't we treat all sins the same?

I think it is incorrect to say that all and any sin is the same in God's eyes. I believe all sin is wrong, bad, etc and God disapproves of all sin. However clearly there are distinctions between a person who gets a speeding ticket, a person committing adultery, and a pedophile. All have done wrong in God's eyes, all have sinned, but certainly each of those sins has a very different set of results that occur because of the sin and each should be treated in a vastly different way than the others.

Pressing-On · #**430** 01-26-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

PO, I think it would be impossible for anybody to overlook Ron's point of view as he proclaimed it adnauseum a bazillion times. (Only outdone by Mr.television one.)

Your second point "I fel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes" brings up some interesting ethical questions.

If what you say is true then should we remove a pastor who breaks the law by driving too fast and gets a speeding ticket? If the sin is the same in God's eyes as adultery shouldn't we treat all sins the same?

I think it is incorrect to say that all and any sin is the same in God's eyes. I believe all sin is wrong, bad, etc and God disapproves of all sin. However clearly there are distinctions between a person who gets a speeding ticket, a person committing adultery, and a pedophile. All have done wrong in God's eyes, all have sinned, but certainly each of those sins has a very different set of results that occur because of the sin and each should be treated in a vastly different way than the others.

I don't believe it would be wise to put sins in little separate compartments or to gauge them in degrees. The Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death." It doesn't categorize them, it simply applies to all sin.

I would agree that the results of some sins have greater effects than others, i.e. murder and theft. But at the end of the day, all sin separates us from God.