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01-31-2013, 01:24 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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So, did she marry you anyway?
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no, she took the pastors advice. Thats okay though, God gave me a wonderful wife and son anyway.
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01-31-2013, 01:26 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The two points I would be concerned with is #3 & #8.
If he is speaking of a local church being the only true church I would agree but if he is saying folks outside the Apostolic church are saved then he is in error and a false prophet.
We commanded not to fellowship the unfruitful works of darkness which would be false churches.
Outside of those two I see no problems. He had some odd treachings himself through the years just saying.
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My church says we are the only true church. Of course we baptize in Jesus name and are filled with the holy ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues as we are the Apostolic Amish. But if you drive a car and have a flush toilet and a coffee table, which people gossip over, you are certainly going to hell in a handbasket.
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01-31-2013, 01:29 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
The two points I would be concerned with is #3 & #8.
If he is speaking of a local church being the only true church I would agree but if he is saying folks outside the Apostolic church are saved then he is in error and a false prophet.
We commanded not to fellowship the unfruitful works of darkness which would be false churches.
Outside of those two I see no problems. He had some odd treachings himself through the years just saying.
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Are you saying that I who do not attend your denomanation am not saved?
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01-31-2013, 01:33 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Emma Bontrager
My church says we are the only true church. Of course we baptize in Jesus name and are filled with the holy ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues as we are the Apostolic Amish. But if you drive a car and have a flush toilet and a coffee table, which people gossip over, you are certainly going to hell in a handbasket.
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flush toilet???? car???? how does these things cause me to sin?
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01-31-2013, 01:37 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
no, she took the pastors advice. Thats okay though, God gave me a wonderful wife and son anyway.
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So, the Pastor was right?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-31-2013, 01:38 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
oh....
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I know. I hate when that happens. 
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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01-31-2013, 01:39 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Emma Bontrager
My church says we are the only true church. Of course we baptize in Jesus name and are filled with the holy ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues as we are the Apostolic Amish. But if you drive a car and have a flush toilet and a coffee table, which people gossip over, you are certainly going to hell in a handbasket.
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Soooo...where DO you guys do your gossiping? 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-31-2013, 01:43 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Soooo...where DO you guys do your gossiping? |
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-31-2013, 01:44 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by Cindy
So, the Pastor was right?
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well, at the time I was an active duty soldier and the pastor told her that if I couldn't be there for her when she needed me then I wasn't suitable for her. At the time I was really hurt by it and was mad at the pastor for butting in, but what could I do? No, the pastor in my opinion was wrong, but God had someone else for me.
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01-31-2013, 01:51 PM
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Re: Signs of a Controlling Church<<<
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
well, at the time I was an active duty soldier and the pastor told her that if I couldn't be there for her when she needed me then I wasn't suitable for her. At the time I was really hurt by it and was mad at the pastor for butting in, but what could I do? No, the pastor in my opinion was wrong, but God had someone else for me.
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Well, if she trusted the pastor's judgment more than her own, she wasn't really marriage material. 
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